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re: America Has an UNDER Incarceration Problem
Posted on 9/12/20 at 8:04 pm to SCLibertarian
Posted on 9/12/20 at 8:04 pm to SCLibertarian
What does civil asset forfeiture have to do with the op? That's another conversation and something that needs some sort of reform
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Posted on 9/12/20 at 8:22 pm to Jake88
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What does civil asset forfeiture have to do with the op?
Because of the monetary benefits of CAF for police departments, more law enforcement and prosecutorial resources are spent on cases that, in and of themselves, aren't violent crimes. When more resources are allocated to the local drug task force instead of your homicide unit or major crimes units, you have overworked detectives and weaker cases, which lead to more plea bargains and lighter sentences.
This post was edited on 9/12/20 at 8:23 pm
Posted on 9/12/20 at 8:33 pm to SCLibertarian
Private prison systems are quite unproductive in the effort to put the "right" offenders in jail/prison for appropriately lengthy sentences as well. The goal of that system is simply to have all beds (and nooks and crannies and floor space if they can get away with it) filled at all times so as to receive full per diem allotments for each prisoner. And if that's the goal, a private prison warden and owner would much prefer to have those beds filled with easier going individuals rather than hard core, dangerous offenders. Thus non-violent offenders are always preferred in private prisons.
Posted on 9/12/20 at 8:35 pm to AlwysATgr
Actually, America lacks state and local mental health hospitals that are desperately needed. Putting them in prison only to be released isn’t going to break any cycles.
Posted on 9/12/20 at 8:45 pm to Jake88
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For years I've said we need more prisons, not fewer. How many times do we hear of some heinous crime which was committed by someone with a lengthy RAP sheet?
Maybe different people in the existing.
Posted on 9/12/20 at 8:49 pm to BamaCoaster
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Well, we incarcerate more people per capita than any other nation, so this is completely false.
This is one of those dicey threads for a bunch of small government folks.
Find out a lot about who is legit pretty quickly
Posted on 9/12/20 at 8:50 pm to AlwysATgr
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in Chicago in 2015 and 2016, about ’90 percent had at least one prior arrest, approximately 50 percent had a prior arrest for a violent crime specifically, and almost 40 percent had a prior gun arrest.’ Of this number, nearly 36 percent were ‘on parole or probation’ at the time of the alleged crime.
And they ALL have been released due to Covid 19.
I kid...but maybe not.
Posted on 9/12/20 at 8:53 pm to BamaCoaster
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Well, we incarcerate more people per capita than any other nation, so this is completely false.
Are there other nations even in our peer group? We have a unique history, demographic, and ethos.
Posted on 9/12/20 at 9:06 pm to Jake88
Basically, American justice system is disjointed. A harmless drug dealer faces more time than a violent criminal in alot of cases. A repeat criminal should risk being exiled out of society completely or at least the aged out beyond the 35 years of age. If they continue to be a criminal then kick them out of the country.
Posted on 9/12/20 at 9:08 pm to Dawgwithnoname
I like how cite violent crimes with no context at all. You def. don't have an agenda. 
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