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re: Alot of the probationary employees that were fired yesterday have 15+ years of fed service

Posted on 2/15/25 at 9:03 am to
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
295457 posts
Posted on 2/15/25 at 9:03 am to
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That would not go well...especially in certain parts of rural AK



Honestly dont care.

We have no say in local land issues with the USFS or NPS. I served on a community advisory committee in the 90s, they do what they do regardless of community input. The entire process is beyond a joke.
Posted by Icansee4miles
Trolling the Tickfaw
Member since Jan 2007
31852 posts
Posted on 2/15/25 at 9:13 am to
I got perp walked virtually by a dickhead boss in 2020 who used Covid and my age to shove me out the door after 17 years with a Fortune 5 company. Zero severance. Luckily, I was old enough to “retire”, but make no mistake, myself, and others got the boot purely based on age. It sucks losing one’s job, are you feeling the same sadness for the 15-20% of Chevron’s workforce about to be put out on the streets? For the tens of thousands that lost their jobs when JoeTato unilaterally canceled the Keystone pipeline on his first day in office? I think his exact words to those displaced workers was “learn to code”. Shoe on the other foot and the Libs and their media minions wail and gnash their teeth.

Hypocrites
Posted by Mizzoufan26
Vacaville CA
Member since Sep 2012
18965 posts
Posted on 2/15/25 at 9:20 am to
Can’t lie I was surprised by this.

Worked with a military officer that separated to take a Government job closer to their home of record. He was still in probationary status and is out of that job now.
Posted by RummelTiger
Official TD Sauces Club Member
Member since Aug 2004
92880 posts
Posted on 2/15/25 at 9:22 am to
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15 years in one position but recently got promoted or moved to a different position or agency and they still got fired.

Not sure how I feel about that yet.


So?
Posted by jake wade
North LA
Member since Oct 2007
2321 posts
Posted on 2/15/25 at 9:24 am to
I was told this week that the mill I have been working at for 30 years is shutting down.
shite happens.
Posted by YumYum Sauce
Arkansas
Member since Nov 2010
9359 posts
Posted on 2/15/25 at 9:26 am to
The good thing is, nobody cares how you feel
Posted by Azkiger
Member since Nov 2016
26908 posts
Posted on 2/15/25 at 9:29 am to
Meh, we saw the my body my choice crowd firing people for not getting the vaccine. At least these layoffs are done so tax payers can save money.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
125246 posts
Posted on 2/15/25 at 9:29 am to
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Those folks don’t deserve to be laid off to satisfy some misguided political agenda.


It’s not about deserving. When a company can’t pay its bills, it cuts costs. Labor is a big cost.

The FedGov can’t pay its bills. See above.
Posted by Stealth Matrix
29°59'55.98"N 90°05'21.85"W
Member since Aug 2019
10863 posts
Posted on 2/15/25 at 9:31 am to
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15 years in one position

That noone elected them to.

Posted by omegaman66
greenwell springs
Member since Oct 2007
26266 posts
Posted on 2/15/25 at 9:35 am to
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Not sure how I feel about that yet.


It sucks and you should be pissed that this had to be done. Hopefully those are the ones that are prioritized when departments need to hire back as restructuring continues. Social Security is an example of understaffed. At least for the system they had in place.
Posted by Narax
Member since Jan 2023
5873 posts
Posted on 2/15/25 at 9:39 am to
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15 years in one position but recently got promoted or moved to a different position or agency and they still got fired.

Do you think this is by accident?

Biden's racial/gender Nazis were promoting their stormtroopers at the end of his administration.


These are EXACTLY the people we should fire.

Posted by Quidam65
Q Continuum
Member since Jun 2010
20484 posts
Posted on 2/15/25 at 9:43 am to
Speaking as a FedGov employee, here's how the system works:

1. If you change agencies, you are on probation just as if you came out of college and this was your first job. The amount of prior service in another agency doesn't count. You can be let go at any time within that period.
2. If you promote or take a new position within an agency, you are also on probation. BUT: if this was your first tenure in that position (such as becoming a new supervisor), IF you are unsuccessful, you must be returned to your prior position (even if that results in moving down to a prior grade, such as back to a GS-12 from a GS-13). The SECOND time you're in a position, that rule doesn't apply; you have no rights to your old position.
Posted by BozemanTiger
Member since Jul 2020
4520 posts
Posted on 2/15/25 at 9:47 am to
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Not sure how I feel about that yet.


Stupid?
Posted by 4Bagger
Member since Jan 2025
629 posts
Posted on 2/15/25 at 9:56 am to
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Not sure how I feel about that yet


Your feelings, and the feelings of those fired, don't matter.
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