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re: Allegations against Moore were key factor in Jones victory

Posted on 12/13/17 at 8:02 am to
Posted by Robin Masters
Birmingham
Member since Jul 2010
29722 posts
Posted on 12/13/17 at 8:02 am to
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They need to moderate. Don’t tell me about Jesus or abortion. Tell me taxes and insurance premiums will go down or at least stay the same for a year. Don’t be a cartoon.


A-fricking-men. But its hard to divide people along things we all agree with.
Posted by SnukaD
Covington, LA
Member since Apr 2016
529 posts
Posted on 12/13/17 at 8:04 am to
Of course. They took the Hillary beating rally bad, so they have to celebrate something. Even though in reality, it means nothing. The guy is a scumbag and didn't need to be in the Senate. They'll vote a republican back in shortly and Alabama will be back to normal.
Posted by TheGasMan
Member since Oct 2014
3141 posts
Posted on 12/13/17 at 8:07 am to
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They need to moderate. Don’t tell me about Jesus or abortion. Tell me taxes and insurance premiums will go down or at least stay the same for a year. Don’t be a cartoon.

100% fact. They’re going to have a major problem in the coming decades clinging to that agenda. Younger generations don’t give a shite about that.

This resurgence (up until last night) of social doctrine by the right seems like a dying gasp of old people holding on to “muh bible”.

I am a millennial and much prefer voting red, but when left with choices as of late I’ve just stayed home. I’m not the only one.
Posted by Perfect Circle
S W Alabama
Member since Sep 2017
6842 posts
Posted on 12/13/17 at 8:07 am to
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They need to moderate.


I think the Republican Party definately needs to take a hard look at reinventing itself.
If Republicans aren't going to actually try and do anything to repeal Roe v Wade, they need to quit saying they're the Pro-life party.
Posted by pvilleguru
Member since Jun 2009
60453 posts
Posted on 12/13/17 at 8:07 am to
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I think if he doesn't have those views on gays and non-Christians and isn't a self-serving judicial tyrant then he weathers those charges no problem. Maybe even emerges with his base more coalesced.
Easily
Posted by Draconian Sanctions
Markey's bar
Member since Oct 2008
84839 posts
Posted on 12/13/17 at 8:16 am to
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Even though in reality, it means nothing.


it definitely does not mean nothing. The GOP plan was to pay for their corporate giveaway next year with cuts to services for poor people. That just got a little harder.
Posted by ChineseBandit58
Pearland, TX
Member since Aug 2005
42561 posts
Posted on 12/13/17 at 8:17 am to
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It's why me and many others voted against him.


SO - you protected the nation from what?? having someone with sexual impropriety in the Senate??

You think you prevented the nation from enacting laws that make it legal to have 'feel up' 14 yr old girls??? because that has to be the only fear about Moore if you believe the allegations. How likely do you think that was to come before the Senate?? Were you afraid that Moore's rhetorical skills could have convinced 60 other senators to vote for 'feeling up' 14 yr. old girls???

Moore is not more of a "kook" than the man your vote helped to be a senator in his stead.

All this 'moral objection' would have been legitimate if it had come up in the primary. Then a different conservative could have been chose. But for it to come up after nothing could be done about the names on the ballot makes it nothing more than a dirty trick.

Moore could have been replaced at the next election - just as many of you are saying = "so what - we can replace Jones at the next election."

Instead, we now have 3 years of an even more deadlocked Senate stopping any and all important conservative ideals.

I don't know you, but I would suspect you were a jones guy from the start. If you really voted agains Moore solely because of these allegations, then you lack rational thought.
Posted by VinegarStrokes
Georgia
Member since Oct 2015
13289 posts
Posted on 12/13/17 at 8:17 am to
Posted by bhtigerfan
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2008
29435 posts
Posted on 12/13/17 at 8:21 am to
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Is this the new left talking point? Anyone who discusses the reason an election went a certain way is now "melting"?
Yes, especially from oldretarddog who's spamming the board with "melt" to any and all posts.

He's a little slow apparently.
Posted by pvilleguru
Member since Jun 2009
60453 posts
Posted on 12/13/17 at 8:23 am to
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SO - you protected the nation from what?? having someone with sexual impropriety in the Senate??

You think you prevented the nation from enacting laws that make it legal to have 'feel up' 14 yr old girls??? because that has to be the only fear about Moore if you believe the allegations. How likely do you think that was to come before the Senate?? Were you afraid that Moore's rhetorical skills could have convinced 60 other senators to vote for 'feeling up' 14 yr. old girls???
Go back and read that post. I voted against Moore because of all the shite he did before the allegations came out.

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Moore is not more of a "kook" than the man your vote helped to be a senator in his stead.
Well that's 100% false.
Posted by thebigmuffaletta
Member since Aug 2017
12893 posts
Posted on 12/13/17 at 8:25 am to
Yeah, I don't get what I'm supposed to be melting about. Moore was a horrible candidate with sexual allegations who lost by less than 1%. He'd might have a point if Jones had beaten a solid republican candidate.
Posted by ScoopAndScore
baton rouge
Member since Oct 2008
11957 posts
Posted on 12/13/17 at 8:26 am to
Sexual allegations have immediately moved into the #1 slot in the Dem playbook now. I suspect we’ll see this tried every time now. The Left is purely evil.
Posted by ChineseBandit58
Pearland, TX
Member since Aug 2005
42561 posts
Posted on 12/13/17 at 8:27 am to
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The guy is a scumbag and didn't need to be in the Senate


because the Senate is so free from having scumbags sitting there

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They'll vote a republican back in shortly and Alabama will be back to normal.


in 3 years - meanwhile, the Trump agenda will be halted. It was almost impossible to get anything done with only a 2 seat edge. Now, with a one-seat edge that means the Senate is realistically DEADLOCKED - nothing will be done without approval from Schumer.

BUT - for 3 years we can be warm and fuzzy about not having any scumbags in the Senate - right?

oh - btw - Moore would have been kicked out in 3 years too. Meanwhile, constitutional judges would have been seated and the Trump agenda could have a 50-50 chance of being passed. You have pissed those 3 years away for assured stagnation - all to the DEMs benefit in 2020.

BUT - rest assured - you have prevented an alleged 'scumbag' from sullying the halls of the Senate - those Saints in the Senate don't have to be worried about collecting any dust on their halos. :rolleyes:
Posted by Draconian Sanctions
Markey's bar
Member since Oct 2008
84839 posts
Posted on 12/13/17 at 8:30 am to
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Is this the new left talking point? Anyone who discusses the reason an election went a certain way is now "melting"?


yes conservatives have never done this








Posted by pvilleguru
Member since Jun 2009
60453 posts
Posted on 12/13/17 at 8:31 am to
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you have prevented an alleged 'scumbag' from sullying the halls of the Senate
He's not an alleged scumbag. He is a scumbag.
Posted by olddawg26
Member since Jan 2013
24580 posts
Posted on 12/13/17 at 8:31 am to
That was my point. This could be entered as one of the most blatant examples of dishing it and not being able to take it. Incredible they don’t see what’s going on.
Posted by RIPMachoMan
Member since Jun 2011
5943 posts
Posted on 12/13/17 at 8:33 am to
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f slandering candidates with flimsy evidence is all it takes then let the games begin. That shite is cheap to come by.


PT has been doing this for years... Commie, birth certificate, clinton hit squad-like terms are coming to mind
Posted by awestruck
Member since Jan 2015
10929 posts
Posted on 12/13/17 at 8:34 am to
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Allegations against Moore were key factor in Jones victory

nawh - it was Luther

How soon we forget only reason Moore was even in the hunt was because Quid-Pro-Luther didn't do his job in the first place. This got the Strange-lobbist-turned-AG placed into the Senate, where finally enough people cried foul and battle wise old Kay Ivey finally called for a special election (to get Moore out of the state - and possibly end his potential Gov'nor run).

Even then the national party still didn't get the message that Alabama wasn't going to be told which SOB was going to represent them. At which point Mitch doubled down on dumb by ratcheting up national support even more (sic) and old Trigger-Riding-Holier-than-Thou-Roy simply rode in on a small wave of never ending evangelical support... as a splintered one party state/system was left thumbing their noses at the establishment wing of their own party... for continually trying to hand pick Luther.

They simply ate their own.
Posted by Jim Smith
Member since May 2016
2915 posts
Posted on 12/13/17 at 8:35 am to
It's pathetic that mere allegations can destroy a person. I'm sure the Duke Lacrosse players are thanking their lucky stars that they weren't running for office when bullshite allegations were made against them...
Posted by LSU alum wannabe
Katy, TX
Member since Jan 2004
26977 posts
Posted on 12/13/17 at 8:39 am to
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Republicans aren't going to actually try and do anything to repeal Roe v Wade, they need to quit saying they're the Pro-life party.


They can’t. I honestly believe this is their gun control. It’s a death blow. Pushing an anti abortion agenda all the way to a Supreme Court overturn is like a democrat going after the Second with a comprehensive AR ban or magazine restrictions. They will quickly die on that sword.
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