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re: All this talk about 47 "shredding the constitution" yet no specific examples...
Posted on 4/16/25 at 7:45 am to lake chuck fan
Posted on 4/16/25 at 7:45 am to lake chuck fan
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This is the answer your fishing for, I'll give it to you..... Trump could, if he wanted to.
I don't think anyone acting rational would disagree
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Trump isn't interested in returning an illegal back into our country, he's trying to get em out!
Well then you just answered the question of OP
Posted on 4/16/25 at 7:46 am to sidewalkside
Where were they with 46? Holy hell - that was shredding the constitution. Just pick one!
Posted on 4/16/25 at 7:48 am to sidewalkside
Some of the stuff is still being litigated/working its way through the courts.
The 10% blanket tariff is on VERY shaky ground, for example. It’s being challenged currently, likely ends up in SC, likely rules against Trump. But we’ll see!
The 10% blanket tariff is on VERY shaky ground, for example. It’s being challenged currently, likely ends up in SC, likely rules against Trump. But we’ll see!
Posted on 4/16/25 at 7:52 am to SlowFlowPro
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The USSC just had a 9-0 ruling...
show your work there, sport, and cite EXACTLY (not generally) how he's
going against that ruling
Posted on 4/16/25 at 7:55 am to Topwater Trout
I don’t understand why y’all pretend like this is such a difficult concept to understand
Trump has every right to deport every illegal alien in the country, this guy included. No one here is disputing that. MSNBC is disputing that, but no one here is.
Even still, this guy very directly and very precisely did exactly what Joe Biden told him to do. Even though what Joe Biden told him to do was illegal (making Biden the truly evil one), he followed the process as defined by the president precisely. And the correct punishment for an illegal alien who did exactly what he was instructed to do by the President of the United States is not a literal lifetime of torture. The right punishment is deportation. Deportation and torture are not the same thing. We have chosen the latter. And it’s a fricked up thing to do.
This poisons the well of public support for deportation. It’s the administration shooting themself in the foot.
Trump has every right to deport every illegal alien in the country, this guy included. No one here is disputing that. MSNBC is disputing that, but no one here is.
Even still, this guy very directly and very precisely did exactly what Joe Biden told him to do. Even though what Joe Biden told him to do was illegal (making Biden the truly evil one), he followed the process as defined by the president precisely. And the correct punishment for an illegal alien who did exactly what he was instructed to do by the President of the United States is not a literal lifetime of torture. The right punishment is deportation. Deportation and torture are not the same thing. We have chosen the latter. And it’s a fricked up thing to do.
This poisons the well of public support for deportation. It’s the administration shooting themself in the foot.
Posted on 4/16/25 at 7:55 am to SlowFlowPro
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Well then you just answered the question of OP
I don't understand why folks think Trump is not following the ruling of SCOTUS or why this person hasn't received due process.
The "withholding of removal" order given by the judge in 2019 isn't valid. Garcia being a member of a terrorist organization disqualifies him.
SCOTUS's ruling directed Trump to facilitate return, but he can't direct El Salvador to return him. Buceli stated in the press conference he will not return the guy.
It's pretty cut and dry.
We can argue all day about Trumps motive and intent, but under the law, he's covered.
Posted on 4/16/25 at 7:57 am to FriedEggBowL
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show your work there, sport, and cite EXACTLY (not generally) how he's
going against that ruling
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The rest of the District Court’s order remains in effect but requires clarification on remand. The order properly requires the Government to “facilitate” Abrego Garcia’s release from custody in El Salvador and to ensure that his case is handled as it would have been had he not been improperly sent to El Salvador.
Requires the government to facilitate his release. What have they done to do so?
Posted on 4/16/25 at 7:59 am to lake chuck fan
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SCOTUS's ruling directed Trump to facilitate return, but he can't direct El Salvador to return him. Buceli stated in the press conference he will not return the guy.
It's pretty cut and dry.
Well that's a problem for the admin and, again, answers the question of OP.
The admin engaging intentionally in a scheme to avoid review and the ability to rectify their illegal behavior is "shredding the constitution".
This post was edited on 4/16/25 at 8:00 am
Posted on 4/16/25 at 7:59 am to SlowFlowPro
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He is so weak he couldn't negotiate the return
Why should a president negotiate for a country to turn over one of their citizens to be extradited to the United States. Give us a good reason this should be done for this individual.
Posted on 4/16/25 at 8:00 am to funnystuff
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He appears to be pretty directly and unequivocally ignoring a 9-0 supreme court order.
You're retarded. The 9-0 ruling was in Trumps favor.
Posted on 4/16/25 at 8:00 am to SlowFlowPro
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The admin engaging intentionally in a scheme to avoid review and the ability to rectify their illegal behavior is "shredding the constitution".
Is there an administration that hasn't done this?
Posted on 4/16/25 at 8:00 am to SlowFlowPro
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Are you really arguing Trump is that much of a powerless pussy? He is so weak he couldn't negotiate the return? Is that really the hill you want to die on?
This is a solid attempt but so pathetic
Posted on 4/16/25 at 8:01 am to funnystuff
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He appears to be pretty directly and unequivocally ignoring a 9-0 supreme court order. That’s not just norms or standards, that’s something significant. It’s early days since that decision, so this warrants a little more time to see how the situation evolves. But saying there’s absolutely no reason to even be concerned here is asinine.
Someone’s been watching CNN, MSNBC and reading DU.
Don’t be lazy and do some independent research on the subject instead of glossing over democrat talking points.
Posted on 4/16/25 at 8:02 am to sidewalkside
He’s a threat to the bureaucracy, not democracy.
Posted on 4/16/25 at 8:03 am to Barstools
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The 9-0 ruling was in Trumps favor.
Objectively one of the funniest takes this week.

Just because Steve Miller said it doesn't mean it's true.
Posted on 4/16/25 at 8:04 am to SlowFlowPro
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The order properly requires the Government to “facilitate” Abrego Garcia’s release from custody in El Salvador
you "claim" to be a lawyer, yet are so stupid you don't know that the US Govt cannot require a country to turn over a citizen of another country, only to be brought to the US, attend one more hearing, and be sent directly back to said country? you're a lot dumber than i thought you were. and that's saying a lot
Posted on 4/16/25 at 8:04 am to SlowFlowPro
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Requires the government to facilitate his release. What have they done to do so?
SFP:

Posted on 4/16/25 at 8:05 am to Flats
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Is there an administration that hasn't done this?
I don't recall one being so bold, but it's always bad.
The last major, similar process is probably Guantanimo with the post-911 WOT silliness (of which I was always against, for the record).
Posted on 4/16/25 at 8:07 am to mwade91383
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Just because Steve Miller said it doesn't mean it's true.
Uhm, but if you read the ruling it says exactly what SM said it does. How do you reconcile that?
Posted on 4/16/25 at 8:07 am to FriedEggBowL
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you "claim" to be a lawyer, yet are so stupid you don't know that the US Govt cannot require a country to turn over a citizen of another country, only to be brought to the US, attend one more hearing, and be sent directly back to said country? you're a lot dumber than i thought you were. and that's saying a lot
You realize the quoted language was not from me, but the Supreme Court, right?
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