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re: Alexander Acosta who prosecuted Epstein first, laughed when asked if Epstein was an asset
Posted on 7/18/25 at 9:57 am to Roaad
Posted on 7/18/25 at 9:57 am to Roaad
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Roaad
According to the Darryl guy on Tucker Maxwell was a freelancer.
So this whole he was only an agent of Israel is probably bullshite too.
And if you are already racist, you will then immediately go to the jews did this without researching further.
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Posted on 7/18/25 at 9:59 am to Flats
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What evidence do you have that the deals were shady?
That there is no evidence of how he made his money.
If you are making money without a paper trail, I have to assume you maybe got it through fraudulent ways.
Also, the amount he supposedly had or was worth could has just be inflated. His Manhattan home was gifted to him from Wexner.
This post was edited on 7/18/25 at 10:01 am
Posted on 7/18/25 at 10:10 am to Mandtgr47
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If this is true, this is what is responsible for his demise. You start playing that game, someone is going to put a trashcan over your head eventually, to shut you up for good.
And no one blackmailed did this because:
A. He wasn't doing this all by his lonesome.
B. A large chunk of his clients did this not as a victim in a honeypot scheme, but as willing participants to join the club of the rich and powerful. Think of it as an initiation. They won't let you in unless they know they can control you.
Posted on 7/18/25 at 10:16 am to dgnx6
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If you are making money without a paper trail, I have to assume you maybe got it through fraudulent ways.
If you traffic women and have a house full of hidden cameras, I have to assume you’re engaging in blackmail. But I keep hearing that there’s “zero evidence” that Epstein engaged in blackmail.
Posted on 7/18/25 at 10:42 am to omegaman66
I haven't watch this yet, but Benz did a pod on Epstein. I am going to overdose on all of this on the weekend.
Also saw this today:
Clusterf--- Nation: The Epstein Enigma.
Naomi Wolf: The Network in the Worlds of Elites.
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Meanwhile, Naomi Wolf by way of Eric Weinstein has come up with quite an original view of what Jeffrey Epstein was about in the strange role he played among the so-called elite. I will link to her recent substack entry below this blog so you can see for yourself. For Ms. Wolf, it was all about the Silicon Valley “network” of tech moguls, their vast power and influence, and an effort by this group, using Epstein as a broker, to steer science generally in the direction that benefited them and their companies. Epstein served as a middleman between politicians, the weapons industry, the big research universities (all those grants!), and linked intel services such as CIA, Mossad, and MI6.
This is what Eric Weinstein means when he describes Epstein as “a construct.” He was less a person than a function. Epstein cultivated the “list” of elite scientists, tech entrepreneurs, academics, and movie stars with lavish parties and trips to his various compounds in Manhattan, Florida, the US Virgin Islands, and his New Mexico ranch — all in the service of building this tech-and-science network that would become a gigantic mutual aid-and-allegiance society advancing the interests of themselves and their institutions. In the process, certain goodies in the form of young ladies groomed in the sexual arts were made available. Some members of this elite network indulged and some did not, the theory goes.
So, one big problem with disclosing all their activity is that many prominent people who are innocent will find themselves nefariously associated with other prominent people who did go for the bait. Hence, this powerful network sedulously defends itself by all necessary means, and even President Donald Trump is wary of crossing them. And hence, also, Mr. Trump’s testy attitude about all the growing attention on Epstein lately, aggravated by his MAGA millions’ expectations for “transparency.”
The personal intersection between Epstein and now-President Trump over the years was incidental to all the other stuff and the people Epstein was into. The two chumming around a bit in the New York nightspots thirty-odd years ago was about the extent of it. Now, there is the silly birthday note supposedly at issue, also decades-old and arguably spurious (published in The Wall Street Journal) and Mr. Trump is suing over it. Ultimately, one night back in 2007, Mr. Trump had Epstein tossed out of his Mar-a-Lago club when either JE or Ghislaine came-on salaciously to his friend’s teenage daughter, and that was the end of that bromance.
Ms. Wolf, with a boost from Eric Weinstein, gives a pretty good account of what may actually have gone on in Jeffrey Epstein’s strange saga. Of course, there are other very strange facets to the story — such as why the DOJ went after him in 2019 (to use against the feared reelection of Trump?), or whether Epstein was murdered in jail, and how he managed to get his mitts on hundreds of millions of dollars with such a poor record as a financial manager. An enigma, fer sure.
Clusterf--- Nation: The Epstein Enigma.
Naomi Wolf: The Network in the Worlds of Elites.
Posted on 7/18/25 at 10:54 am to LSUbest
This entire discussion is off base. It was never Epstein’s list. He was just a perverted puppet front man. Maxwell was the one connected to the IC community directly. She was managing the asset management piece of the intel operations. Possible blackmail and control was an added bonus.
Posted on 7/18/25 at 11:11 am to RobbBobb
quote:Calling it a rabbit hole implies the answers will lead to more questions. If he simply denies he told anyone that he was told Epstein "belonged to intelligence", then there wouldn't be any more questions on that thread. He didn't.
He did deny it. He said it was nothing more than rabbit holes
Posted on 7/18/25 at 11:13 am to theunknownknight
quote:If that were true there would be an intelligence file on Epstein as an asset.
This entire discussion is off base. It was never Epstein’s list. He was just a perverted puppet front man. Maxwell was the one connected to the IC community directly. She was managing the asset management piece of the intel operations. Possible blackmail and control was an added bonus.
Posted on 7/18/25 at 11:21 am to mmcgrath
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If that were true there would be an intelligence file on Epstein as an asset.
Why? They don’t need to “have a file”. In fact, it would be royally stupid to have a file on an illegally operating asset tied to them.
The link is as clear as day. Robert FREAKING Maxwell.
Posted on 7/18/25 at 12:45 pm to LSUbest
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Has it ever been fully explained how Epstein went from a simple math teacher to an influencer and confidant to the most powerful men of society and industry?
I'm not into Epstein.
I'm in IT security.
ETA: but I bet having young girls to pass around would help with that.
Posted on 7/18/25 at 1:14 pm to RobbBobb
According to Ward, when Acosta was being vetted for a Trump administration position, he was asked about the Epstein case. His alleged response was that he had been told Epstein “belonged to intelligence” and that he should back off.
Posted on 7/18/25 at 1:15 pm to RobbBobb
I see everyone is getting their story in line . "Nothing to see here, it's just a democrat hoax". sure is a big change from the last six years or so.
Posted on 7/18/25 at 1:30 pm to Bunk Moreland
This has basically been my take on this for years. Except for the science part of it and why Trump is acting the way he is acting. That I don't know. Could be fear, could be a nuke if he arrest them all, could be he is fooled again, could be he wants to arrest everyone at once including people not tied to epstein... IDK.
Posted on 7/18/25 at 1:57 pm to theunknownknight
quote:? They have files on all sorts of criminals. They have to track contacts and activities.
Why? They don’t need to “have a file”. In fact, it would be royally stupid to have a file on an illegally operating asset tied to them.
The link is as clear as day. Robert FREAKING Maxwell.
And if there is anyone tied to perverted sexual activities in Florida my first guess would be Roger Stone.
Posted on 7/19/25 at 10:00 am to dgnx6
quote:Who said that?
he was only an agent of Israel.
quote:A freelancer that worked almost exclusively with MI5 and Mossad, getting weapons and materials into Israel discreetly. Also had ties to Russian intel community, for good measure
According to the Darryl guy on Tucker Maxwell was a freelancer.
From his wiki:
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The Foreign Office suspected Maxwell of being a secret agent of a foreign government, possibly a double agent or a triple agent, and "a thoroughly bad character and almost certainly financed by Russia". He had known links to the British Secret Intelligence Service (MI6), to the Soviet KGB, and to the Israeli intelligence service Mossad.[58]
And also, here
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British intelligence officers suspected that Robert Maxwell, the disgraced publisher, was a Soviet agent, according to Foreign Office papers which have just been released.
After the former Mirror newspapers chief and ex-Labour MP died at sea on November 5 1991, there was widespread speculation that he might have been a double or even a triple agent, but the FBI found nothing in a decade of monitoring him, despite his known links with MI6, the KGB and the Israeli intelligence service Mossad.
However, his file, titled "Captain Ian Maxwell", at the National Archives in Kew, London, has been found to contain reports submitted to the Information Research Department (IRD), a covert unit of the Foreign Office, describing him as "a thoroughly bad character and almost certainly financed by Russia".
Correspondence between various members of the IRD reveal that the Czech-born Maxwell had been considered to be a suspicious figure directly after the Second World War, when Maxwell, then a lieutenant in the British Army, was working for the British Control Commission in Berlin - an allied administrative body.
Digby Ackland, of the IRD, wrote in a 1959 report that "Capt Maxwell's questionable activities have been brought to the notice of the Foreign Office on several occasions over the past 10 years".
Maxwell established Pergamon Press, which specialised in scientific books from Germany and Eastern bloc countries. Despite the Foreign Office suspicions, he became a Labour MP in 1964. He maintained links with Russian leaders until his death.
His son Kevin defended his father, who died leaving a £400 million hole in his publishing empire's pension fund. He claimed that the documents were merely evidence "of a long line of Foreign Office tripe".
This post was edited on 7/19/25 at 10:19 am
Posted on 7/19/25 at 11:00 am to RobbBobb
All I want to know is how this dude went from being a math teacher to owning a fricking island.
Posted on 7/20/25 at 6:07 am to Wednesday
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All I want to know is how this dude went from being a math teacher to owning a fricking island.
He tutored the son of Alan Greenberg in math. They met at a PT conference when Epstein was teaching. The guy that hired Epstein at the school was also later sued for letting a female student stay with him. It has been falsely reported that man was Bill Barrs father. Barr was gone from the school before Epstein was hired
Epstein conned his way into a trading job with Greenberg at Bear Stearns, who had himself risen from a clerk at Bear Stearns to CEO. So he saw himself in Epstein. Within 4 years he was made partner, and began raking in the dough. Starting in 1998 he had enough capital to borrow large sums from JPMorgan Chase. Which is the same year he bought his island
After Bears Stearns collapsed, Epstein moved into personal management for billionaires Les Wexner, Leon Black, etc. He was making hundreds of millions from them. He also invested $40M with Peter Thiel, which produced a 325% return
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