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re: Alex Jones loses lawsuits against Sandy Hook families.
Posted on 10/2/21 at 1:22 am to icutmyownlawn
Posted on 10/2/21 at 1:22 am to icutmyownlawn
quote:go suck start a shotgun
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Posted on 10/2/21 at 1:31 am to AndyCBR
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The guy ran his mouth, caused damage to others, and now he has to pay the consequences.
Pretty simple really.
Conflating his actions as some type of free speech issue is stupid. He knowingly attempted to cause harm using his words.
If someone reads this post and assaults Alex Jones afterwards, are you on the hook?
Posted on 10/2/21 at 1:51 am to Eurocat
What was the lawsuit against Alex Jones. He hurt their feelings?
Posted on 10/2/21 at 2:52 am to icutmyownlawn
The case was lost. Don’t need to convince me so much as I don’t have a problem either way.
But there are curious aspects to all this.
I have to ask though, what’s really changed since ? Public sentiment?
Sandy Hook & Las Vegas are 2 cases which no one seems to want to have a discussion.
But there are curious aspects to all this.
I have to ask though, what’s really changed since ? Public sentiment?
Sandy Hook & Las Vegas are 2 cases which no one seems to want to have a discussion.
This post was edited on 10/2/21 at 3:14 am
Posted on 10/2/21 at 4:43 am to Azkiger
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If someone reads this post and assaults Alex Jones afterwards, are you on the hook?
Of course not.
Jones is being sued for his own despicable actions.
Conservatives need to find a better hero than Jones. It's almost as bad as the left using Floyd as a champion.
Posted on 10/2/21 at 7:23 am to au4you
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This is bullshite. Alex Jones freaking owns! Dude knows his stuff and should be listened to. Alex saying he shouldn’t be taken seriously and is playing a character is a flat out lie to throw off the deep state!
Holy shite are you 12?
Posted on 10/2/21 at 7:49 am to PurpleandGeauld
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There was a lot more suspicious than that. FEMA "happened" to be doing a "training exercise" a few miles away dealing with that EXACT scenario. Many (most iirc) of the parents of victims were members of the screen actors guild. I personally saw a video of one of the parents doing a interview, but there was about 30 seconds of footage before the interview started. The parent was laughing and cutting up with the film crew until they gave him the signal, and he immediately became "all sad." Not even one picture of the inside of the school building ever appeared anywhere. There is no way the "paparazzi" didn't pay off someone to sneak in there and get some pics. Finally, and most importantly, there was a HUGE push immediately after for all kinds of gun control laws. Maybe it was real, but I will always be suspicious.
Posted on 10/2/21 at 7:50 am to PurpleandGeauld
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Not even one picture of the inside of the school building ever appeared anywhere. There is no way the "paparazzi" didn't pay off someone to sneak in there and get some pics.
You’re wondering why there aren’t pictures of murdered children released by the media?
Posted on 10/2/21 at 7:54 am to SouthEasternKaiju
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I have to ask though, what’s really changed since ? Public sentiment?
It starts a conversation. They change and make a few new laws to appease the liberal teat suckers. They add more gun free zones. etc...etc... Give them an inch, they take a mile. The end game is to get rid of the Second Amendment and become Australia.
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Sandy Hook & Las Vegas are 2 cases which no one seems to want to have a discussion.
The Government doesn't want to talk about them. They know that people with a functioning brain and an IQ over 70 will know they are full of s***.
Posted on 10/2/21 at 8:53 am to AndyCBR
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Jones is being sued for his own despicable actions.
Title of OP's link says....
"Alex Jones must pay damages to Sandy Hook families after calling shooting a ‘giant hoax,’ judge rules"
Sounds like this is about words, not actions.
Posted on 10/2/21 at 8:55 am to The Boat
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What was the lawsuit against Alex Jones. He hurt their feelings?
No. He showed a level of obtuseness that is unbecoming of the Right while we're trying to get a handle on this generational slide.
Thought we were supposed to be different from the Left in calling out our own when they deserve it. Instead of rationalizing stupidity.
Posted on 10/2/21 at 8:58 am to jackamo3300
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Thought we were supposed to be different from the Left in calling out our own when they deserve it
The right has called out Alex Jones, and that is entirely different from a court of law ruling that it's illegal to publically call a school shooting a hoax.
Posted on 10/2/21 at 9:00 am to jackamo3300
So you are saying he said something that hurt their feelings…you just said it in a pedantic way. Thanks for supporting the Boat.
Posted on 10/2/21 at 9:06 am to Azkiger
There's nothing surprising about a decision such as this.
The judicial system has slouched into a full-on embarrassment.
But it in no way mitigates the preposterous assertion by Jones.
Once you say it, it's out there forever.
The judicial system has slouched into a full-on embarrassment.
But it in no way mitigates the preposterous assertion by Jones.
Once you say it, it's out there forever.
Posted on 10/2/21 at 9:14 am to jackamo3300
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But it in no way mitigates the preposterous assertion by Jones
Agreed, but this thread is about the lawsuit not about whether or not Alex was right about Sandy Hook.
Big gov always takes the most extreme cases to set precedence that'll eventually be used for less and less extreme cases.
I feel for the parents of Sandy Hook, but don't let their frustration and distress move you to allow the Government to suppress the first amendment.
You'll notice all the direct calls to violence and rioting during the George Floyd "protests have escaped civil or criminal court...
Posted on 10/2/21 at 9:16 am to icutmyownlawn
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The parents are the crisis actors. Watch and learn...
Seek help
Posted on 10/2/21 at 10:08 am to Azkiger
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I feel for the parents of Sandy Hook, but don't let their frustration and distress move you to allow the Government to suppress the first amendment.
Nobody is suppressing shite.
Jones said what he said, and did what he did.
And he’s being sued for defamation, libel, and slander.
This isn’t a free speech issue. This is an a-hole who made false statements and defamed individuals specifically by making his false statements which resulted in damages.
FFS the grieving parents had to band together and sue this arse clown to get him to stop. He doubled, and tripled down on his stupidity.
Pay up sucker.
Posted on 10/2/21 at 10:42 am to AndyCBR
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Nobody is suppressing shite.
Using courts to unjustly fine someone for speech is a form of suppression.
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Jones said what he said, and did what he did.
You keep trying to pretend he did something. This is a defamation suit, it's about what he said not what he did. This is the third time I've corrected you on this.
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And he’s being sued for defamation, libel, and slander.
Libel and slander are subsets of defamation. You're being redundant and likely have little understanding of what you're speaking about.
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This isn’t a free speech issue. This is an a-hole who made false statements and defamed individuals specifically by making his false statements which resulted in damages.
Of course it is. There are several criteria a statement needs to check off in order to be considered defamation. One of the criteria is that the statement needs to be "unpriviledged". This one gives people making false claims the most wiggle room. Political commentary is absolutely priviledged, and it's why politicians and news agencies can get away with some of the more unhinged statements they make.
The central theme of Alex Jones reporting on Sandy Hook was that government was using false flags to usher in extreme gun control or outright gun bans.
He didn't randomly target a civilian and make false claims about them for the sake of false claims or for the sake of ruining their reputation. It was a critique of government action. Sure, he was wrong. But you're accepting a very dangerous line in the sand that you can be sued if you make a claim about government behavior that later turns out to be false - especially seeing how fact checking websites fact check material today.
Posted on 10/2/21 at 11:08 am to Azkiger
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You keep trying to pretend he did something. This is a defamation suit, it's about what he said not what he did. This is the third time I've corrected you on this.
You’re playing semantics and I’m not going to play that stupid game. He defamed those parents (an act) by using his words and false statements. This resulted in damages.
You’re trying to make the simple, complicated in a feeble attempt to defend your pathetic argument.
Jones specifically referenced and referred to the Sandy Hook parents by name, picture, and video which defamed them and resulted in damages.
He didn’t just say “Sandy Hook is a hoax”, and you know it. You’re being disingenuous at best to portray Jones’ pursuit of those parents as some type of random political statement.
I hope they get every penny they can out of that worthless slob.
Posted on 10/2/21 at 11:17 am to Flats
You’d think they would be crowing about all the accomplishments of the guy they elected to run the country.
Ha Ha Ha you should be in comedy!
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