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re: Alabama, POTUS wants you to know you cannot trust Jeff Sessions

Posted on 5/22/20 at 9:31 pm to
Posted by Sentrius
Fort Rozz
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Posted on 5/22/20 at 9:31 pm to
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Are you joking? You are way smarter. If Sessions resigned when Mueller was appointed all hell would have broke lose. They would of had a peach mint on the spot and tar and feathered Trump at dawn-all of them including the Turtle's.

This replacement guy may suck but then again Sessions should have known better to run.


Yeah I'm well aware that Trump had absolutely no political capital to hire his own AG and I even made the same case back then.

The issue here is Trump knew that and still tried to bully Sessions anyway into resigning and he ended up firing him in the end after the midterms.

What was the point of that?
This post was edited on 5/22/20 at 9:32 pm
Posted by Roll Tide Ravens
Birmingham, AL
Member since Nov 2015
42288 posts
Posted on 5/22/20 at 9:32 pm to
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Do you trust him less than the Republican who was a party to a Democrat plot to remove the president on false accusations?
If Sessions is in charge of any investigation, or if he ends any investigation before it begins, the Dems use that against Trump. That’s why he recused himself. Not sure what evidence you have that makes him some sort of co-conspirator to a coup attempt.
This post was edited on 5/22/20 at 9:35 pm
Posted by Sentrius
Fort Rozz
Member since Jun 2011
64757 posts
Posted on 5/22/20 at 9:35 pm to
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After whore Loefflers insider trading


She's reasonably attractive so she must be a whore.

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Perhaps she needs to take some of her insider trading money and buy off Collins to make a united front here.


Not going to happen.

If their twitters are any indication, they absolutely hate each other.

One way or the other, it's going to end badly and after the first round, I will be surprised if the loser endorses the winner for the runoff.

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She is going to end up in a nasty fight that could lead to a la gov situation.


Very plausible.

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Honestly the best and brightest move is for the GA GOP to force both out in favor of someone else.



No chance of happening but I would love for Nathan Deal to come in and be a caretaker candidate. He could serve two years and be a reliable conservative vote.
Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
56470 posts
Posted on 5/22/20 at 9:37 pm to
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Illegal immigration is only one half of the immigration problem


You mentioned it. Are you now backtracking and acknowledging that Trump is serious about stopping illegal immigration? If so, how does that compare to every president we've had over the last 40 years?
Posted by bhtigerfan
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2008
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Posted on 5/22/20 at 9:40 pm to
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If Sessions is in charge of any investigation, or if he ends any investigation before it begins, the Dems use that against Trump. That’s why he recused himself. Not sure what evidence you have that makes him some sort of co-conspirator to a coup attempt.
Who gives a frick what the Democrats think?

You think Obama was worried about that when Holder and Lynch quashed all the investigations into his administration?
Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
56470 posts
Posted on 5/22/20 at 9:41 pm to
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If Sessions is in charge of any investigation, or if he ends any investigation before it begins, the Dems use that against Trump


So, on one had we have this ambiguous "use the lack of recusal against Trump." On the other hand, we have a manufactured russian collusion investigation which failed so it was converted to an obstruction of justice investigation, which also failed but was used to justify an impeachment of the president.

Hmmm....which was the better choice?

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Not sure what evidence you have that makes him some sort of co-conspirator to a coup attempt.



The fricker hasn't even acknowledged or shown any regret that his recusal opened the door for the illegal investigation and coup attempt.
Posted by Sentrius
Fort Rozz
Member since Jun 2011
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Posted on 5/22/20 at 9:43 pm to
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Are you now backtracking and acknowledging that Trump is serious about stopping illegal immigration?


You misunderstood me.

While Trump may better than republican Presidents of past on illegal immigration and it's certainly a welcome help, his efforts on legal immigration is by no means good enough to what we really need.

Unchecked and out of control Immigration is precisely why we have a deep state that fights election results and a wave of communism washing over our major cities, suburbs and our presidential elections already have confirmed communists running in them.

Donald Trump is not a restrictionist.
Posted by Big4SALTbro
Member since Jun 2019
14890 posts
Posted on 5/22/20 at 9:43 pm to
No she is a whore for her swampy insider trading and kemps worst mistake.

When a fricking la gov situation happens because Collins and Loeffler can’t play nice everyone is going to be pissed.

It’s one of the biggest issues on the right is the candidates and their supporters hold nasty grudges. Bored housewives in the suburbs up here are not going to beat out enough votes to beat atl/Savannah. The country boys aren’t going to vote Loeffler no matter how much trump begs.

Ga and national GOP would be smart to step in.

Deal would be perfect but I doubt he will come in and Collins and Loeffler have probably already pushed this too far.

Problem is she doesn’t need money thanks to marrying into it and then insider trading moves. Collins could probably be bought off Bernie style but not to support her.

Isakson deserves some of the blame here as well for deciding he should continue to hold out until the bitter end when he clearly wasn’t capable of doing his duty.
Posted by Big4SALTbro
Member since Jun 2019
14890 posts
Posted on 5/22/20 at 9:45 pm to
We agree on this though trump is way to lax on legal immigration.

That is likely a by product of his businesses.

Posted by 14&Counting
Eugene, OR
Member since Jul 2012
37618 posts
Posted on 5/22/20 at 9:46 pm to
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Sessions is a closet lib. Didn’t care for Tubbs as a coach but he’s based as a politician.





Sessions is a lot of things but not a liberal,,,,,,and Tuberville is an idiot

Damn you are dumb
Posted by Sentrius
Fort Rozz
Member since Jun 2011
64757 posts
Posted on 5/22/20 at 9:48 pm to
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So, on one had we have this ambiguous "use the lack of recusal against Trump."



In February 2017, Sessions hasn't recused himself yet and the deep state already got a major scalp in forcing the President to fire his national security advisor General Flynn, a cabinet level official by the way.

They would've found a way around a lack of recusal and who knows whether or not it would've been effective. But we don't live in that world now.
This post was edited on 5/22/20 at 9:56 pm
Posted by JoeHackett
Member since Aug 2016
4314 posts
Posted on 5/22/20 at 9:48 pm to
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So, on one had we have this ambiguous "use the lack of recusal against Trump." On the other hand, we have a manufactured russian collusion investigation which failed so it was converted to an obstruction of justice investigation, which also failed but was used to justify an impeachment of the president.

Hmmm....which was the better choice?


Which one of those things ultimately cleared the President of treason?
Posted by Sentrius
Fort Rozz
Member since Jun 2011
64757 posts
Posted on 5/22/20 at 9:58 pm to
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No she is a whore for her swampy insider trading


Let's be clear here.

I've looked into the timelines and facts of Loeffler's stock situation and I came away with the conclusion that it's nowhere near enough for her to be concerned about legal jeopardy.

The reason why Richard Burr is in deep shite is because he personally handled the stock transactions himself like a real idiot.

The other senators have multiple layers of protection between them and their stock portfolios.

This should explain it you.

Other Senators don’t have Richard Burr’s insider trading problem

The problem for Loeffler is that she's an awkward millionaire that did not handle it well and the timing of the story came at the worst possible time for her with a pandemic where people are losing their jobs and she's a brand new senator and people don't know her.

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When a fricking la gov situation happens because Collins and Loeffler can’t play nice everyone is going to be pissed.



There's something to be said about Doug Collins jumping into the race three weeks after Kemp appoints Loeffler.

It came off as sour grapes and he instantly made the race much more competitive than it needed to be.

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When a fricking la gov situation happens because Collins and Loeffler can’t play nice everyone is going to be pissed.



That is where I'm afraid this race is heading down.
Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
56470 posts
Posted on 5/22/20 at 9:58 pm to
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They would've found a way around a lack of recusal and who knows whether or not it would've been effective. But we don't live in that world now.



You'd have to be a moron to think getting a dirty special prosecutor wasn't a key event.
Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
56470 posts
Posted on 5/22/20 at 9:59 pm to
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Which one of those things ultimately cleared the President of treason?



What are you saying? We're better off having gone through a manufactured accusal of the president for Treason because it didn't work?
Posted by Sentrius
Fort Rozz
Member since Jun 2011
64757 posts
Posted on 5/22/20 at 10:02 pm to
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You'd have to be a moron to think getting a dirty special prosecutor wasn't a key event.



Actually I would argue that Trump is more to blame for the Mueller appointment which was two months after Sessions recused.

The point of no return for the Trump Russia Hoax was this very moment.



He just fired James Comey in the most ham fisted way possible and point blank told the world in the interview with NBC he fired Comey because of Russia with absolutely no nuance to it possible. Just blurted out Russia.

RUSSIA.

After that, it was inevitable that Rosenstein would crack and appoint a special counsel.

That was pure stupidity on Trump's part and no one forced him to do that. His own staff tried to stop him and he still went ahead with the interview.
Posted by Big4SALTbro
Member since Jun 2019
14890 posts
Posted on 5/22/20 at 10:04 pm to
I agree she was never in legal danger but her political career is on life support with it. She wasn’t all that well liked before then she does that and her defense is flimsy and we both know in the court of public opinion she is doomed with it. It’s such small potatoes of their wealth but it gives Collins ammo and his supporters ammo and something that won’t be forgiven.

I agree Collins isn’t blameless in this since he stirred it up with his sour grape action, but Kemp and Loeffler should have had a meeting after her hand was caught in the inside trading cookie jar. She isn’t a strong enough politician to play it off and win any of Collins supporters. She should have withdrawn from the race that day.

I get where kemp was going with appointing her trying to win the women in Cobb county and such but it’s going to suppress vote up in the northern counties even without Collins.

The sad part is the ga gop is usually much better than this but it’s starting to become la with this race.
Posted by cajunangelle
Member since Oct 2012
146700 posts
Posted on 5/22/20 at 10:17 pm to
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These people were never serious about combatting illegal and legal immigration. But that's a given considering the president is by no means a restrictionist.

There's a reason why unions and ICE and CBP agents oppose Tuberville. They don't believe he's serious about border security and enforcing immigration law.

A senate term from Tommy Tuberville is going to disappoint his voters. He'll be just like Lindsey Graham and Thom Tillis who are the most pro immigration Senate repubs in Congress right now.
Thom Tillis and Graham are this way because they are controlled by lobbyists. They all are, some more than others. We could send in any warm body and they eventually serve their overlords the lobbyists.

K Street, the Business round table, and the chamber of commerce write legislation and bills.

Might as well not let Sessions back in because he is a POS turncoat. He is weak, period.

Why don't you concentrate on figuring out how the few like Rand Paul don't manage to get fully under the lobbyists spell? They all do, I guess Rand chooses who owns him better. China owns them all and Turtle is their best guy.
Posted by Sentrius
Fort Rozz
Member since Jun 2011
64757 posts
Posted on 5/22/20 at 10:21 pm to
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Thom Tillis and Graham are this way because they are controlled by lobbyists.


And Tubby will follow them as well. He will be every bit as swampy as those two.

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Might as well not let Sessions back in because he is a POS turncoat. He is weak, period.




Sessions is responsible for stopping the 2013 Gang of 8 amnesty bill that Graham and Rubio were pushing. That's the same bill they were harassed for by Trump supporters during the presidential primaries.

He also stopped the 2007 John McCain - Ted Kennedy amnesty bill that Bush 43 was heavily pushing.

He did those two things with virtually no support whatsoever.
Posted by m2pro
Member since Nov 2008
28607 posts
Posted on 5/22/20 at 10:40 pm to
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We are already over the cliff and free falling in the chasm.


Dude. I used to be obsessed with this board around the exit of a guy some will probably remember called Toothpick. After he left I posted and read every day probably for 5+ years. I drop in to see thr topics still every week or so but infrequently respond and NEVER read threads from start to end.

I am as fiscally conservative and as socially conservative as is sane.... and more than half these folks are so lost in Trump they have forgotten context to anything.

I'm also a big Trump supporter. Mostly because of the ideological threat he represents to the opposition.. thr hope we can stop these globalist fks... but I ain't about that single person blind defensive method.
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