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re: Alabama Plans Second “Execution” of Kenny Smith by Experimental Method

Posted on 1/22/24 at 11:59 am to
Posted by mauser
Orange Beach
Member since Nov 2008
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Posted on 1/22/24 at 11:59 am to
In the plant where I worked a guy died from nitrogen hypoxia. It was witnessed. He was talking, then rolled his eyes up, and fell over unconscious. It was painless and he never knew what hit him. Certainly less painful then guys trying to start ivs with needles. Don't fall for the histrionics. It's humane.
Posted by ArHog
Muss is a coward
Member since Jan 2008
33086 posts
Posted on 1/22/24 at 12:00 pm to
.50 cal to the head, no pain and no suffering.
This post was edited on 1/22/24 at 12:01 pm
Posted by 4cubbies
Member since Sep 2008
50189 posts
Posted on 1/22/24 at 12:03 pm to
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He may have been poked a few times with a needle, but so fricking what?


I don’t want the State to be able to poke a citizen with needles for four hours, then have the opportunity to botch another execution attempt.
Posted by Dex Morgan
Member since Nov 2022
1336 posts
Posted on 1/22/24 at 12:03 pm to
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Fire up Old Sparky



You wouldn't be saying that if you were the one having to do it. Prison staff have to scrape the burnt flesh off of the electrodes and clean up body fluid from the chair and floor afterwards. There's a very good reason it isn't used anymore. It's a disgusting experience for those having to carry it out. The inmate gets out easy if everything is working properly. Braindead in a fraction of a secondbefore any pain can be felt. It's far worse for the staff.

Nitrogen is the the method that should have been used for many years now. It's extremely fast, painless, and no mess for prison staff.
Posted by MemphisGuy
Member since Nov 2023
3270 posts
Posted on 1/22/24 at 12:04 pm to
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I don’t want the State to be able to poke a citizen with needles for four hours, then have the opportunity to botch another execution attempt.


And I don't want people killing Preacher's wives for hire... yet here we are.

(see, I can bold stuff too)

Carry out his sentence and get it over with.
This post was edited on 1/22/24 at 12:05 pm
Posted by 4cubbies
Member since Sep 2008
50189 posts
Posted on 1/22/24 at 12:04 pm to
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Why do so many of you make such ignorant statements? Two minutes on Google would show you this is the most peaceful execution method imaginable.


Lethal injection is supposed to be peaceful, too. That’s the point.
Posted by Evolved Simian
Bushwood Country Club
Member since Sep 2010
20563 posts
Posted on 1/22/24 at 12:05 pm to
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Alabama could not be trusted to reliably carry out his execution without an unacceptable risk of unnecessary torture in violation of the Eighth Amendment.




Torture? Trying 3-4 times to find a good vein because the fricker intentionally dehydrated himself prior to his execution is hardly torture.
Posted by 4cubbies
Member since Sep 2008
50189 posts
Posted on 1/22/24 at 12:05 pm to
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And I don't want people killing Preacher's wives for hire... yet here we are.


No one does. The death penalty obviously doesn’t stop this from happening.
Posted by MemphisGuy
Member since Nov 2023
3270 posts
Posted on 1/22/24 at 12:06 pm to
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The death penalty obviously doesn’t stop this from happening.


He won't ever be able to kill anyone again, that's for damn sure.
Posted by roadGator
Member since Feb 2009
140592 posts
Posted on 1/22/24 at 12:06 pm to
Does life in prison stop it?
Posted by 4cubbies
Member since Sep 2008
50189 posts
Posted on 1/22/24 at 12:07 pm to
Nope. Incarceration doesn’t prevent crime.
Posted by 4cubbies
Member since Sep 2008
50189 posts
Posted on 1/22/24 at 12:08 pm to
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He won't ever be able to kill anyone again, that's for damn sure.


He can’t kill anyone again anyway. He’s in prison.

ETA. Ok. He can’t kill another preacher’s wife ever again.
This post was edited on 1/22/24 at 12:18 pm
Posted by roadGator
Member since Feb 2009
140592 posts
Posted on 1/22/24 at 12:08 pm to
Clearly. That’s why there are so many repeat offenders. Jail is no big deal to them.
Posted by Placekicker
Florida
Member since Jan 2016
8161 posts
Posted on 1/22/24 at 12:09 pm to
Did they think to start an intraosseous line?
Posted by roadGator
Member since Feb 2009
140592 posts
Posted on 1/22/24 at 12:09 pm to
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He can’t kill anyone again anyway


Ummmmm

Anyone want to tell her?
Posted by MemphisGuy
Member since Nov 2023
3270 posts
Posted on 1/22/24 at 12:10 pm to
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He can’t kill anyone again anyway. He’s in prison.


Sure he can. Being in prison in no way stops him from killing.

At any rate...

The object of justice is not to rehabilitate or create some new person, but rather to balance the scales of justice. And sometimes the only way to do that is to give the offender his just deserts: capital punishment.
This post was edited on 1/22/24 at 12:13 pm
Posted by Dex Morgan
Member since Nov 2022
1336 posts
Posted on 1/22/24 at 12:10 pm to
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So is using an experimental method of carrying out the sentence.


No it isn't. Every method was experimental the first time.
Posted by FCP
Delta State Univ. - Fightin' Okra
Member since Sep 2010
4789 posts
Posted on 1/22/24 at 12:11 pm to
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What is the legality of trying (and failing) to execute someone
There’s a Louisiana case on-point. Back when the electric chair was carried around the state for executions. State had a drunk dude set it up, they strapped the guy in, but it wouldn’t kill him. They turned it off, and he filed writs to the USSC. Argument was that the sentence was one killing, not multiple. Writs were denied, and they tried again a few days later. Era was 1940s IIRC. Convicted man was likely innocent. I have a book about it in my office—can’t remember his name offhand.
Posted by TNTigerman
James Island
Member since Sep 2012
10498 posts
Posted on 1/22/24 at 12:12 pm to
I hate ineptitude.
Posted by GhostOfFreedom
Member since Jan 2021
11796 posts
Posted on 1/22/24 at 12:12 pm to
They sure are trying to scare people away from this simple and painless way of neutralizing predators.

Air tight chamber, pump nitrogen in. Wait and hour. Done.
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