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re: Alabama food stamps drop 85% AFTER work requirements reinstated
Posted on 6/6/17 at 11:56 am to DisplacedBuckeye
Posted on 6/6/17 at 11:56 am to DisplacedBuckeye
Morally? It most certainly does. There is a lot of luck involved in life, regardless of work. I'm aware most people here will disagree, but statistically the vast majority on here wouldn't understand the other side of the spectrum. Count your blessings sir.
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Posted on 6/6/17 at 11:56 am to HeyHeyHogsAllTheWay
quote:Well if it's costlier, then it's not worth it until it's not costlier.
A) So what
quote:I think it's because the percentage of users is still probably low, and those who are users, can probably find ways to pass the test fairly easily.
B) you don't know that that is true because you don't know how many people who were on drugs simply chose not to even apply knowing that they would be drug tested, which means that's money saved
Posted on 6/6/17 at 11:57 am to skrayper
What I've been saying for 3 pages but people want social programs to be completely eliminated evidently. Short-sighted view.
This post was edited on 6/6/17 at 11:58 am
Posted on 6/6/17 at 11:58 am to Gordon Hayward
You're right communist, maximum employment is more important than efficiency
Posted on 6/6/17 at 11:59 am to navy
I'm talking about unemployment as an economic measure, not a check you get when you get laid off lol. That is unemployment insurance and it is paid for by employers, not your taxes.
Posted on 6/6/17 at 11:59 am to skrayper
Anecdotal: We have actually gone to the unemployment office and offered jobs to people at that location ... and were told point blank more more than one occasion:
"I've been riding this train for three years ... and, I'm not getting off until it stops."
There are jobs out there ... FOR PEOPLE WHO WANT TO frickING WORK.
"I've been riding this train for three years ... and, I'm not getting off until it stops."
There are jobs out there ... FOR PEOPLE WHO WANT TO frickING WORK.
Posted on 6/6/17 at 12:01 pm to navy
Yeah ... but chances are ... if you are drawing UNEMP ... you are likely trying to get food stamps as well.
All that shite is part of the same scam.
Once a year, should just cut off everyone ... and then start all over from scratch ... make people actually prove that they deserve to be leeches with no dignity.
All that shite is part of the same scam.
Once a year, should just cut off everyone ... and then start all over from scratch ... make people actually prove that they deserve to be leeches with no dignity.
Posted on 6/6/17 at 12:02 pm to Gordon Hayward
quote:
Morally? It most certainly does.
No, it doesn't.
quote:
Count your blessings sir.
Sweet assumption.
Posted on 6/6/17 at 12:04 pm to navy
It isn't though. They draw resources from different places as well. Unemployment insurance is paid as a percentage of the first $7700 of each employee's wages by the employer.
Posted on 6/6/17 at 12:05 pm to buckeye_vol
quote:
Well if it's costlier, then it's not worth it until it's not costlier.
I disagree because in my opinion it's worth the cost to tell drug users that if they have enough money to buy their drugs, they have enough money to buy their own food.
That's simply a difference in philosophy between us.
quote:
I think it's because the percentage of users is still probably low, and those who are users, can probably find ways to pass the test fairly easily.
of course it would still be low , because the percentage of Americans who use drugs is low, and many of those who DO use drugs are in jail for whatever reason and thus not even applying for SNAP making the number even lower, but again I refer you to my response above.
Posted on 6/6/17 at 12:06 pm to Gordon Hayward
What difference does it make where the money comes from if it is for a SCAM?
Fraud is fraud. Waste is waste.
And fricking laziness is fricking laziness.
And we've got too damn much of it.
Fraud is fraud. Waste is waste.
And fricking laziness is fricking laziness.
And we've got too damn much of it.
Posted on 6/6/17 at 12:07 pm to navy
quote:
Anecdotal: We have actually gone to the unemployment office and offered jobs to people at that location ... and were told point blank more more than one occasion:
"I've been riding this train for three years ... and, I'm not getting off until it stops."
There are jobs out there ... FOR PEOPLE WHO WANT TO frickING WORK.
Unemployment in Alabama lasts for a maximum of 26 weeks, and only if you worked that long. Do you mean the welfare office? You don't collect money at unemployment offices, you are given resources to locate jobs.
I should know, I got laid off not too long ago and worked my arse off finding a new job. I never collected any welfare, but did get unemployment. I was paranoid I wouldn't find work before the time was up.
I will say that they were amazed a bit by me (not that the bar was high), because my resume was formatted with side columns for skills, bullet points, etc and that all my job applications were in a color coded Excel spreadsheet. They even asked if I would be willing to teach people how to write resumes and do the spreadsheets.
Posted on 6/6/17 at 12:07 pm to HeyHeyHogsAllTheWay
The government should make drug stamps for the people that don't want to work as well
Posted on 6/6/17 at 12:07 pm to navy
Y'all have a nice day. Lunch time.
Posted on 6/6/17 at 12:08 pm to skrayper
You could teach them but I suspect many don't want to be taught.
Posted on 6/6/17 at 12:08 pm to bamarep
CNN: Alabama Starves children!
Posted on 6/6/17 at 12:09 pm to HeyHeyHogsAllTheWay
Drug tests people can plan for aren't really an indicator of who is using drugs. Every drug except marijuana is out of your system within a few days of taking it. And if a marijuana smoker knows he/she has an upcoming drug test, they can just stop for 2-4 weeks and it's out of their system.
Trust me, most drug users know how to beat drug tests.
Trust me, most drug users know how to beat drug tests.
Posted on 6/6/17 at 12:10 pm to skrayper
quote:
Do you mean the welfare office?
Posted on 6/6/17 at 12:10 pm to The Spleen
quote:
And if a marijuana smoker knows he/she has an upcoming drug test, they can just stop for 2-4 weeks and it's out of their system.
bullshite, no marijuana addict that I've ever known could stop for that long
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