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re: Alabama food stamps drop 85% AFTER work requirements reinstated
Posted on 6/6/17 at 11:33 am to Gordon Hayward
Posted on 6/6/17 at 11:33 am to Gordon Hayward
Not enough jobs to require people to work...
Unless you are talking about illegal immigration and then there are more jobs than workers available...
Sometimes I feel like I'm taking crazy pills.
Unless you are talking about illegal immigration and then there are more jobs than workers available...
Sometimes I feel like I'm taking crazy pills.
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Posted on 6/6/17 at 11:36 am to theenemy
Either not enough jobs in their area or jobs requiring skills that are unattainable for them. It's called structural unemployment and it exists even when we are at "full" employment.
Posted on 6/6/17 at 11:39 am to Gordon Hayward
quote:
Zero is impossible**
So what?
Zero murders is impossible. Just give up?
Posted on 6/6/17 at 11:40 am to HeyHeyHogsAllTheWay
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This is a nonsense excuse
No, it's the reality. Sure, there are jobs they can find. I'm talking about good paying jobs that can sustain a small family, or provide a young single person with some upward mobility. These types of jobs are few and far between in these counties.
Posted on 6/6/17 at 11:44 am to DisplacedBuckeye
If it involves infringing on civil rights like drug testing I'm not for it. I never said don't find means of lowering numbers, just that it is already at a good spot so nothing drastic is necessary. It won't ever go away. Too many people are for them being in place and compromise is necessary. You're trying too hard to argue with someone on your side lol
Posted on 6/6/17 at 11:45 am to Gordon Hayward
Taking money from tax payers and giving it to drug addicts is immoral.
Posted on 6/6/17 at 11:46 am to DisplacedBuckeye
obviously a backwards racist state like Alabama would let children literally starve!!
Posted on 6/6/17 at 11:46 am to roadGator
The handful of states that have drug tested welfare recipients spent more on the drug testing than the money they saved in denied benefits for positive test results.
Posted on 6/6/17 at 11:47 am to Gordon Hayward
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If it involves infringing on civil rights like drug testing I'm not for it.
Federally subsidized financial aid isn't a right.
Posted on 6/6/17 at 11:48 am to roadGator
The requirements aren't based off of disposable income lol. They qualify, drug use or no drug use, based off of that income or lack thereof.
Posted on 6/6/17 at 11:49 am to The Spleen
It will cost some in the Short term for sure. Cut those people off forever and win in the long term.
Posted on 6/6/17 at 11:50 am to DisplacedBuckeye
But due to unemployment being inherent, it is necessary. That is why I brought it up. 831 is a small fraction of a population. The likelihood for waste after the requirements were reinstated is minimal.
Posted on 6/6/17 at 11:51 am to The Spleen
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The handful of states that have drug tested welfare recipients spent more on the drug testing than the money they saved in denied benefits for positive test results.
A) So what
and
B) you don't know that that is true because you don't know how many people who were on drugs simply chose not to even apply knowing that they would be drug tested, which means that's money saved
Posted on 6/6/17 at 11:52 am to The Spleen
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The handful of states that have drug tested welfare recipients spent more on the drug testing than the money they saved in denied benefits for positive test results.
The reason for this is because dmv level workers are running the drug tests and are probably on food stamps themselves
Let robots do the drug tests, problem solved
And robots can type faster due to not having 7 inch fingernails
Posted on 6/6/17 at 11:53 am to Gordon Hayward
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But due to unemployment being inherent, it is necessary.
That doesn't make it a right.
Posted on 6/6/17 at 11:54 am to bamarep
quote:This is a good trend.
As of Jan. 1, 2017, there were 13,663 able-bodied adults without dependents receiving food stamps statewide. That number dropped to 7,483 by May 1, 2017. Among the 13 counties, there were 5,538 adults ages 18-50 without dependents receiving food stamps as of Jan. 1, 2017. That number dropped to 831 - a decline of about 85 percent - by May 1, 2017.
And I think it's important to note that the remaining counties dropped by about 19%. So a decrease would have been expected, the decrease relative to the comparison group is important as well. So it decreased about 4.7 times faster than the other counties.
Posted on 6/6/17 at 11:54 am to el Gaucho
Yea, taking away jobs for the unskilled will totally solve this problem 
Posted on 6/6/17 at 11:55 am to Gordon Hayward
Wilcox County's population is about 12,000, so 831 is a pretty big number. About 7%. Unemployment there is around 11%. There is next to nothing there.
Posted on 6/6/17 at 11:55 am to Gordon Hayward
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you realize unemployment is inherent right?
OK ... but, unemployment is supposed to be for when you get laid off or lose your job for a reason not related to getting FIRED for reasons such as drug use, failure to show up, failure to actually work, failure to be reliable, failure to follow instructions, failure to be even remotely competent, etc., etc.
Unemployment is not supposed to be so that you can eat because you are too fricking lazy and/or stoned to work ...as we all should do.
Posted on 6/6/17 at 11:55 am to DisplacedBuckeye
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Imagine how far that would drop if we instituted a drug test requirement as well.
If it's down by 831, I would imagine not more than 831. ;)
In a state of over 4 million, that's pretty dang good.
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