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re: AL AG rules Hoover officer justified in deadly Thanksgiving night shooting at Galleria
Posted on 2/5/19 at 6:18 pm to MrLarson
Posted on 2/5/19 at 6:18 pm to MrLarson
They aren’t going to have much support in the community. Everyone has seen the video by now. You can’t claim he wasn’t armed, because everyone has seen that he was armed and that he attempted to pursue the first shooter. The family can kick rocks because they’ve seen the same video.
Posted on 2/5/19 at 6:53 pm to Blizzard of Chizz
And the incident happened in literally 3 seconds
Posted on 2/5/19 at 9:05 pm to Blizzard of Chizz
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law enforcement cannot allow an armed individual to pursue another armed individual into a crowed dept store and risk the lives of others.
The police officer who killed him thought he was the shooter and opened fire for that reason. From the horses mouth
“The Hoover police officer actually was running to the scene, he heard gunshots, he was obviously very near the scene, he actually shot and killed the person who injured the other... We know they got into physical altercation. We know the deceased was armed with a handgun and we know he shot the person who was transported to UAB" Hoover Police Captain Gregg Rector said.
This post was edited on 2/5/19 at 9:06 pm
Posted on 2/5/19 at 10:25 pm to bmy
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The police officer who killed him thought he was the shooter and opened fire for that reason.
As did multiple eye witnesses.
This post was edited on 2/5/19 at 10:26 pm
Posted on 2/5/19 at 10:56 pm to bmy
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The police officer who killed him thought he was the shooter and opened fire for that reason. From the horses mouth
I love that you keep jokingly trying to second guess these officers, but let’s put you in their shoes, and have you make life and death decisions in less than 10 seconds. There BMY is patrolling the mall when gunfire erupts. Immediately people begin to scatter as you move toward the gun shots. Within seconds you come upon an armed man, who immediately begins sprinting with a pistol towards the crowed JC Penny’s dept store... what are you going to do officer BMY? You gonna stand there with a thumb in your arse and let him run into a crowded store and risk countless lives or are you going to pull the trigger?
Btw, you know what happens when cops stand around and assess an active shooter situation but fail to engage?? Parkland High school happens. It’s the difference between 1 or 2 dead bodies and a couple dozen dead bodies...
Posted on 2/6/19 at 6:37 am to imjustafatkid
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As did multiple eye witnesses
A quick youtube search can show you a few videos of eye witnesses saying the police shot the wrong guy
Posted on 2/6/19 at 6:50 am to Blizzard of Chizz
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There BMY is patrolling the mall when gunfire erupts. Immediately people begin to scatter as you move toward the gun shots. Within seconds you come upon an armed man, who immediately begins sprinting with a pistol towards the crowed JC Penny’s dept store... what are you going to do officer BMY? You gonna stand there with a thumb in your arse and let him run into a crowded store and risk countless lives or are you going to pull the trigger?
Did he kill the shooter? He made an assumption and killed an innocent man but because he is wearing blue it's somehow okay. If one of us had pulled that trigger we would be in a neck high pile of legal shite.
Posted on 2/6/19 at 6:53 am to bmy
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Did he kill the shooter? He made an assumption and killed an innocent man but because he is wearing blue it's somehow okay. If one of us had pulled that trigger we would be in a neck high pile of legal shite.
blah blah blah
Posted on 2/6/19 at 7:26 am to gthog61
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Would the city/police department/officer be legally on the hook if the officer did not intervene and the victim ran up and killed someone?
If not -- that's why it is wrong to hold officers to a different standard than you or I would face.
Posted on 2/6/19 at 8:19 am to bmy
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Would the city/police department/officer be legally on the hook if the officer did not intervene and the victim ran up and killed someone?
Of course they would. If they came upon a guy with a gun in an active shooter situation (they did) and allowed him to run into a crowded dept store where he ended up killing multiple people with random gun fire, absolutely they’d be held liable.
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that's why it is wrong to hold officers to a different standard than you or I would face.
They are held to different standards for a reason. A civilian has the right to stand his ground and defend himself. That is the only time they are legally justified to use deadly force. Once you pursue and kill someone, you are no longer protected under self defense... a police officer also has the right to use deadly force to defend himself. He also has the legal authority to pursue an individual and use deadly force if that person is a threat to the public. Running through the shopping mall with a handgun in an active shooter situation makes you a threat to public. I have zero doubt in my mind that the victim in this case was pursuing the first shooter into JC Penny’s and would have engaged him and a second shootout would have occurred.
Posted on 2/6/19 at 9:14 am to bmy
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A quick youtube search can show you a few videos of eye witnesses saying the police shot the wrong guy
That's nice. Doesn't change what I said. Multiple eye witnesses told investigators he shot the right guy.
This post was edited on 2/6/19 at 9:15 am
Posted on 2/6/19 at 9:18 am to imjustafatkid
Posted on 2/6/19 at 2:01 pm to Blizzard of Chizz
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Of course they would. If they came upon a guy with a gun in an active shooter situation (they did) and allowed him to run into a crowded dept store where he ended up killing multiple people with random gun fire, absolutely they’d be held liable.
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