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re: Air Raid Sirens going off in ALL OF UKRAINE as Russia Launches Massive Bombardment!
Posted on 9/12/22 at 12:58 pm to shel311
Posted on 9/12/22 at 12:58 pm to shel311
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My question still stands. Any negative news on Russia is fake, any negative news on Ukraine is real...that's how you want it to work, correct?
I just want to know who is really winning and who is really losing... Heck over the weekend, I thought Russia was in full collapse and about to surrender... Now, not so much...
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Posted on 9/12/22 at 12:58 pm to JayDeerTay84
quote:Thanks for confirming my suspicion.
I dont play these games. You clearly do not understand the comparison.
Further, I do not participate in strawmen argument's.
I can't exactly take my credit for sniffing that one out given how obvious it was.
Posted on 9/12/22 at 1:01 pm to The Maj
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I just want to know who is really winning and who is really losing... Heck over the weekend, I thought Russia was in full collapse and about to surrender... Now, not so much...
There isn't a reliable source on this war, both parties who report have a need to lie.
Its a war for cheerleaders.
Posted on 9/12/22 at 1:01 pm to The Maj
quote:Nobody is winning
I just want to know who is really winning and who is really losing... Heck over the weekend, I thought Russia was in full collapse and about to surrender... Now, not so much...
Ukraine is fighting a war they likely can't win. Russia should be able to crush them at will and other than the pro Putin poli dudes, anyone with any bit of rational review of this will tell you that Russia has failed pretty massively since February. Now it's a war in the end they will win, but I think I posted it already, it would be like Alabama playing a D2 team or some shite with a 55 point spread and kicking a FG as time expired to win. Yea they won technically but are you viewing that weekend game as an actual win? Nah.
Posted on 9/12/22 at 1:02 pm to shel311
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Thanks for confirming my suspicion.
And there is your problem. You make assumptions based on personal bias.
You have inadvertently just proven everyone you were arguing with right.
Posted on 9/12/22 at 1:03 pm to shel311
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Nobody is winning
At this point, I wonder if they are even still fighting...
Posted on 9/12/22 at 1:04 pm to JayDeerTay84
quote:Not really a problem if you proved my assumption correct, which you did.
And there is your problem. You make assumptions
quote:Just because you string a set of words together does not make it so. That seems to be your plan in this thread, it's very easy to see right through it.
You have inadvertently just proven everyone you were arguing with right.
Posted on 9/12/22 at 1:05 pm to The Maj
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At this point, I wonder if they are even still fighting...
The world definitely stopped caring about it pretty quickly. We just shuffled on to the next thing.
Posted on 9/12/22 at 1:05 pm to L1C4
quote:not sure what one had to do with the other. I mean is pretty well confirmed that the Russians have retreated from around karkhov and izyum due to a Ukrainian counter offensive, not sure what lobbing cruise missiles into civilian infrastructure does to counter that. More like a temper tantrum after getting knocked back. Russia had been indiscriminately launching cruise missiles into civilian infrastructure the entire war, not really sure why Putin fanboys are flexing on these ones
but..but, the news said Ukraine had Russian troops on the run
This post was edited on 9/12/22 at 7:15 pm
Posted on 9/12/22 at 1:06 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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There isn't a reliable source on this war, both parties who report have a need to lie.
Its a war for cheerleaders.
There actually is only one side of the news. There is no "Russian" side that gets reported. Its all banned before take-off. That is the actual issue.
You have to go "off site" to get reports and geo-locations from guys in the field from telegrams. Twitter doesnt even allow Russian reporters most of the time. Its all banned mostly.
Posted on 9/12/22 at 1:07 pm to shel311
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Not really a problem if you proved my assumption correct, which you did.
Only in your head. Which makes my point about News with regards to Putin/Trump reliability all the more valid.
quote:
Just because you string a set of words together does not make it so
Look in a mirror.
Posted on 9/12/22 at 1:09 pm to JayDeerTay84
quote:If a Russian state owned news agency and the main Moscow newspaper reported about an ousted Commander erroneously, what do you think would happen? Given we all know the answer to that, why would they do so then?
There actually is only one side of the news. There is no "Russian" side that gets reported. Its all banned before take-off. That is the actual issue.
You have to go "off site" to get reports and geo-locations from guys in the field from telegrams. Twitter doesnt even allow Russian reporters most of the time. Its all banned mostly.
Posted on 9/12/22 at 1:10 pm to JayDeerTay84
quote:Cool, but please explain why the Moscow Times and Russian state owned news agency are reporting the fake news as well.
Only in your head. Which makes my point about News with regards to Putin/Trump reliability all the more valid.
Go ahead, explain it...
Posted on 9/12/22 at 1:11 pm to shel311
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Cool, but please explain why the Moscow Times and Russian state owned news agency are reporting the fake news as well.
Go ahead, explain it...
Can you be specific? To what specific news are you referring to?
Posted on 9/12/22 at 1:12 pm to shel311
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If a Russian state owned news agency and the main Moscow newspaper reported
We have American Media, which has been utterly embarrassing and where you pop culturists get your news.
Its fodder for simpletons and every American should be wondering why the American media became a TASS level propagandist over this war.
Its impossible to get a objective view of whats happening.
This post was edited on 9/12/22 at 1:14 pm
Posted on 9/12/22 at 1:13 pm to JayDeerTay84
quote:Reuters as well as the Russian state owned news agency as well as the Moscow Times are all reporting that Russia replaced their naval commander recently.
Can you be specific? To what specific news are you referring to?
Now, the Russian military has denied this, but again, I get the "fake news" lines if you want to talk about the US media, but please explain why the Russian state owned news agency and Moscow Times would do such a thing...
Posted on 9/12/22 at 1:14 pm to shel311
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Reuters as well as the Russian state owned news agency as well as the Moscow Times are all reporting that Russia replaced their naval commander recently.
Now, the Russian military has denied this, but again, I get the "fake news" lines if you want to talk about the US media, but please explain why the Russian state owned news agency and Moscow Times would do such a thing...
Links?
If you give links to Russian State owned news saying this we can start there and actually read it.
Or is this like Trump "news" and its "sources" that are never named?
Posted on 9/12/22 at 1:14 pm to JayDeerTay84
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Can you be specific? To what specific news are you referring to?
Exactly. Who is the one listening to Russian propaganda? Sounds like its just the Ukraine bros.
Posted on 9/12/22 at 1:14 pm to RogerTheShrubber
quote:Uhhh...what? That makes zero sense given what you quoted.
We have American Media, which has been utterly embarrassing and where you pop culturists get your news.
Its fodder for simpletons and every American should be wondering why the American media became a TASS level propagandist over this war.
Posted on 9/12/22 at 1:16 pm to LookSquirrel
Russia trying to take them out, probably start nuking them if they keep resisting.
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