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re: Air Raid Sirens going off in ALL OF UKRAINE as Russia Launches Massive Bombardment!
Posted on 9/12/22 at 9:41 am to shel311
Posted on 9/12/22 at 9:41 am to shel311
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But yea, and again, all these pivots have only ever come about after the fact. No one was saying this was the plan before, only now.
But now in this thread we're being told you can't think this unless you've held meetings with Putin and have on official Russian letterhead what their exact plans were...without that, you can't ever say that Russia has not accomplished any of their objectives!
Posted on 9/12/22 at 9:46 am to Damone
quote:Bro, it's totally normal for Putin to be removing senior military commanders multiple times in 7 months while still accomplishing all the goals they set out to accomplish.
That's a pretty terrible strategy by Russia at large cost to them. Their military is poorly equipped and manned to begin with, these losses are not something that they can just glance over.
Posted on 9/12/22 at 10:06 am to shel311
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The biggest opponents to Putin's policies are the nationalist, not the 'western' favored 'liberal' clowns like Navalny. The nationalists can be found on the political left, right and center. They are not well organized but have a voice throughout the political spectrum. (The former President Dimitri Medvedev currently plays to that audience.) The nationalists even have a voice in public media.
Here are Gilbert Doctorow's observations of their recent position discussed in prominent Russian talk shows:
For his part, Vladimir Solovyov went beyond presentation of the threat posed by the United States and its allies to analysis of Russia’s possible response. He spoke at length, and we may assume that what he was saying had the direct approval of the Kremlin, ..
...
So, what did Solovyov have to say? First, that Ramstein marked a new stage in the war, because of the more threatening nature of the weapons systems announced for delivery, such as missiles with accuracy of 1 to 2 meters when fired from distances of 20 or 30 kilometers thanks to their GPS-guided flight, in contrast to the laser-guided missiles delivered to Ukraine up till now. In the same category, there are weapons designed to destroy the Russians’ radar systems used for directing artillery fire. Second, that Ramstein marked the further expansion of the coalition or holy crusade waging war on Russia. Third, that in effect this is no longer a proxy war but a real direct war with NATO and should be prosecuted with appropriate mustering of all resources at home and abroad.
Said Solovyov, Russia should throw off constraints and destroy the Ukrainian dual use infrastructure which makes it possible to move Western weapons across the country to the front. The railway system, the bridges, the electricity generating stations all should become fair targets. Moreover, Kiev should no longer be spared missile strikes and destruction of the ministries and presidential apparatus responsible for prosecution of the war. I note that these ideas were aired on the Solovyov program more than a month ago but then disappeared from view while the Russians were making great gains on the ground. The latest setbacks and the new risks associated with the Western policies set out at Ramstein bring them to the surface again.
LINK
Posted on 9/12/22 at 10:37 am to shel311
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So you're sticking with everything is going to plan for Russia
I never said they had a plan
You did and I asked what it was
You went full clown like always and said the plan failed cause of a convoy
Posted on 9/12/22 at 10:42 am to SDVTiger
quote:Do you think Russia has a plan?
I never said they had a plan
You did and I asked what it was
quote:Doubling down on having to be out of touch with reality and pretend the convoy that got stuck in the mud went exactly as planned to make your point. Bold strategy!!!
You went full clown like always and said the plan failed cause of a convoy
This post was edited on 9/12/22 at 10:42 am
Posted on 9/12/22 at 10:43 am to shel311
So, is Ukraine winning or not winning at this point...
Posted on 9/12/22 at 10:44 am to The Maj
quote:Are they winning? No
So, is Ukraine winning or not winning at this point...
Posted on 9/12/22 at 10:44 am to shel311
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Do you think Russia has a plan?
I think Russia wants the resources if there was a plan
They have been sitting on all those areas for the past 6mnths
You are a tard who thinks they were marching on Kiev cause of a convoy that cnn told you about 6mnths ago
Posted on 9/12/22 at 10:46 am to SDVTiger
quote:Out of touch with reality
I think Russia wants the resources if there was a plan
They have been sitting on all those areas for the past 6mnths
You are a tard who thinks they were marching on Kiev cause of a convoy that cnn told you about 6mnths ago
I can't imagine thinking the convoy was a decoy. I REALLY can't imagine saying that out loud even if I did believe it.
Come join us in the real world when you're ready.
This post was edited on 9/12/22 at 10:47 am
Posted on 9/12/22 at 12:30 pm to shel311
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Out of touch with reality
I can't imagine thinking the convoy was a decoy. I REALLY can't imagine saying that out loud even if I did believe it.
Come join us in the real world when you're ready.
You were asked a question which you still havent answered
You just keep saying a Convoy
You are perfect for the OT war thread
Posted on 9/12/22 at 12:34 pm to LookSquirrel
Be careful, cromedome (the czar of all things Ukraine / Russia conflict), about to come in this thread hot
Posted on 9/12/22 at 12:37 pm to SDVTiger
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You are perfect for the OT war thread
Cheap propaganda works on OTers.
In fact, it works on 3/4ths of the population.
LINK
quote:
When presented with the five factual statements, Pew reports only 26% of American adults correctly identified all five as facts. On the other hand, 28% -- about one in four – got two or less right.
Very average people see the world through the lens of propgandists, and cannot tell the difference.
Posted on 9/12/22 at 12:38 pm to MorgusTheMagnificent
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Be careful, cromedome (the czar of all things Ukraine / Russia conflict), about to come in this thread hot
It might be a minute. They are in the OT thread reposting old videos as new "Russian failures".
Posted on 9/12/22 at 12:39 pm to shel311
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Bro, it's totally normal for Putin to be removing senior military commanders multiple times in 7 months while still accomplishing all the goals they set out to accomplish.
News about Putin is about as reliable as news about Trump.
Posted on 9/12/22 at 12:44 pm to SDVTiger
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Come join us in the real world when you're ready.
quote:Like I said, Come join us in the real world when you're ready.
You were asked a question which you still havent answered
You just keep saying a Convoy
Posted on 9/12/22 at 12:46 pm to RogerTheShrubber
quote:Funny that Rog doesn't realize what group he belongs in. He's the same dude who just makes outright lies in his posts, and when called out with receipts on his lies, just disappears and shuffles on to the next thread.
Cheap propaganda works on OTers.
In fact, it works on 3/4ths of the population.
But tell us more, Rog...
Posted on 9/12/22 at 12:47 pm to JayDeerTay84
quote:So any negative Putin news is fake but any negative news on Ukraine is real. Is that how you want it to work?
News about Putin is about as reliable as news about Trump.
Posted on 9/12/22 at 12:49 pm to shel311
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So any negative Putin news is fake but any negative news on Ukraine is real. Is that how you want it to work?
I guess you are not operating at full speed here.
Do you understand the comparison? Like, at all?
Posted on 9/12/22 at 12:54 pm to JayDeerTay84
quote:My question still stands. Any negative news on Russia is fake, any negative news on Ukraine is real...that's how you want it to work, correct?
I guess you are not operating at full speed here.
Do you understand the comparison? Like, at all?
Posted on 9/12/22 at 12:57 pm to shel311
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My question still stands. Any negative news on Russia is fake, any negative news on Ukraine is real...that's how you want it to work, correct?
I dont play these games. You clearly do not understand the comparison.
Further, I do not participate in strawmen argument's.
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