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re: Ahmaud Arbery had a history of claiming to be a jogger to cover for criminal activities.
Posted on 4/4/21 at 8:36 pm to texag7
Posted on 4/4/21 at 8:36 pm to texag7
quote:
Running around the truck and to the gun was a stupid choice
Well yea it didn’t end up well for him lol.
But he was legally in the right to do so.
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Posted on 4/4/21 at 8:43 pm to Madking
Please feel free to point out all of my bigoted statements. Have at it. Please be sure to detail how and why they’re bigoted. Clue. They aren’t.
ETA. I’ve called one person racist in this thread and he clearly is.
ETA. I’ve called one person racist in this thread and he clearly is.
This post was edited on 4/4/21 at 8:44 pm
Posted on 4/4/21 at 8:49 pm to texag7
quote:
Running around the truck and to the gun was a stupid choice
yeah self defense against armed, violent thugs sometimes doesn't work out for the victim of the violent crimes
Posted on 4/4/21 at 8:51 pm to texag7
quote:
Running around the truck and to the gun was a stupid choice
What should he have done? He was swarmed by armed strangers.
That would trigger a fight or flight response in anyone.
Posted on 4/4/21 at 8:57 pm to Auburn1968
quote:Agreed ... 100%
Debunked is a much abused word these days
Posted on 4/4/21 at 8:57 pm to roadGator
My best summary of what I think happened...
Two guys were not there to kill anyone. Bad decisions made by all involved.
Arbery didn’t seem too consumed with getting away from the two guys (running down the middle of the street). If I feel someone was trying to kill me I’m hitting the woods full speed, getting into a house, under a car, anything.
Once Arbery rounded the truck I think everyone had an oh shite moment. Gun goes off either intentionally or by the scuffle
Two guys were not there to kill anyone. Bad decisions made by all involved.
Arbery didn’t seem too consumed with getting away from the two guys (running down the middle of the street). If I feel someone was trying to kill me I’m hitting the woods full speed, getting into a house, under a car, anything.
Once Arbery rounded the truck I think everyone had an oh shite moment. Gun goes off either intentionally or by the scuffle
Posted on 4/4/21 at 8:58 pm to LordSaintly
quote:
He was swarmed by armed strangers.
He was running down the damn center of an open street towards a vehicle
Not my plan of action if I’m being hunted
Posted on 4/4/21 at 9:03 pm to texag7
quote:
He was running down the damn center of an open street towards a vehicle
He also had another vehicle following behind him and tried to veer away from the guy standing in the road pointing a shotgun at him who then rushed around the front of the truck to cut him off.
Posted on 4/4/21 at 9:03 pm to texag7
quote:Some nutcases on the internet may well be asserting that Cletus and Jethro were out hunting Black folks for fun and profit, but no one HERE has made any such assertion. They need not have been seeking to kill the kid in order to have violated the law.quote:Sounds like they didn’t plan on shooting him if they had been on him for 10 minutes
So you aren’t aware that they had already been chasing AA for at least 10 minutes and had already attempted to corner him once.
They attempted to detain him with no legal right to do so. That is a felony. They committed aggravated assault against him. That is a felony. In the course of those felonies, Arbery died. That is "felony murder." It would not matter whether he died from swallowing his own tongue. That is not a moral judgment. It is simply the law.
This post was edited on 4/4/21 at 9:23 pm
Posted on 4/4/21 at 9:07 pm to texag7
I keep putting myself in that situation. I probably try to calmly ask the guys why they’re following me. If I see a shotgun, I probably start shitting myself.
I agree that the camera work isn’t entirely clear.
I agree that the camera work isn’t entirely clear.
Posted on 4/4/21 at 9:08 pm to texag7
quote:I think this is a fair evaluation, with the caveat that Clan McMichaels DID commit several felonies, even if they did NOT intend to kill anyone.
My best summary of what I think happened...
Two guys were not there to kill anyone. Bad decisions made by all involved. ....
Once Arbery rounded the truck I think everyone had an oh shite moment. Gun goes off either intentionally or by the scuffle
Posted on 4/4/21 at 9:08 pm to mouton
quote:
He also had another vehicle following behind him and tried to veer away from the guy standing in the road pointing a shotgun at him who then rushed around the front of the truck to cut him off.
Like I said he didn’t seem too concerned running down the street where the cars and people were. Not where I would be. Probably figured he could easily take their gun or whip the guy and got popped. Sad situation nonetheless
Posted on 4/4/21 at 9:13 pm to L.A.
To many times a lot is left out of the story to hype the victim as a good innocent person being slaughtered and rarely is that the case.
They shouldn't have chased him down with guns though still. Both parties can be wrong.
They shouldn't have chased him down with guns though still. Both parties can be wrong.
Posted on 4/4/21 at 9:23 pm to AggieHank86
quote:
Some nutcases on the internet may well be asserting that Cletus and Jethro were out hunting Black folks for fun and profit, but no one HERE has made any such assertion.
"And even if it was, you do not have the right to stalk and kill someone for trespassing after they leave."
Someone also said they "hunted" him.
Posted on 4/4/21 at 9:29 pm to Flats
They did hunt him. Not for fun. They thought they were fighting for truth and justice. They were wrong.
Posted on 4/4/21 at 9:35 pm to the808bass
“Hunt” implies they set out to kill him.
Again, if they were in the wrong so much I don’t know why people have to give this story the MSNBC treatment.
Again, if they were in the wrong so much I don’t know why people have to give this story the MSNBC treatment.
Posted on 4/4/21 at 9:38 pm to texag7
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Like I said he didn’t seem too concerned running down the street where the cars and people were.
This ignores the previous 5+ minutes of running he had done through the subdivision. They circled back two or three times to cut him off in two separate vehicles. They even tried to hit him with one of the vehicles.
And al that is applying rational though to an irrational situation. You can say it wasn’t smart of Arbery to charge the McMichael with the gun. And that’s true. It wasn’t smart of the McMichaels to get strapped and chase someone through their subdivision either.
Whether or not what Arbery did was smart is almost irrelevant to the legal discussion.
Posted on 4/4/21 at 9:39 pm to Flats
quote:
Hunt” implies they set out to kill him.
No, it doesn’t.
Posted on 4/4/21 at 9:41 pm to the808bass
What does it mean then?
Posted on 4/4/21 at 9:44 pm to the808bass
quote:
No, it doesn’t.
Usually one hunts to kill.
It was more like fishing with the intent of catch and release.
Who knows through? I can’t imagine getting in a truck and driving after someone seen in a construction site. The best thing that could happen was what? You intimidate him to the point he doesn’t return.
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