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re: Adam Shitf warns that Trump impeachment trial could end with acquittal
Posted on 7/28/19 at 5:23 pm to PygmalionEffect
Posted on 7/28/19 at 5:23 pm to PygmalionEffect
quote:
There was rock solid evidence of a crime committed, multiple crimes. Over 900 former federal prosecutors that read the report all agreed that Trump committed obstruction of justice.
Ok, assuming that is true, objectively true. If the senate votes along party lines, it doesn’t matter.
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Posted on 7/28/19 at 5:24 pm to Godfather1
quote:A judge already gave honest Bob and Barr nastygrams for releasing the honest Bob report. Let the dems change the law to release GJ testimony that has no gotcha. They won't recover for 30 years. The dems are biding time because that billionaire a-hole Tom Hoyer is threatening to cut off the gravy train of campaign and slush funds.
You’re missing the point.
If there were rock-solid evidence of a crime committed, he could be indicted, policy or no policy. No one is above the law, remember? There’s nothing for Congress to change.
He didn’t do anything. Deal with it.
Posted on 7/28/19 at 5:24 pm to PygmalionEffect
quote:
Over 900 former federal prosecutors that read the report all agreed that Trump committed obstruction of justice.
You are using as evidence that a number of former democrat and never trumpers don't like him?
Get the frick out
Posted on 7/28/19 at 5:26 pm to L.A.
quote:
Adam Shitf warns that Trump impeachment trial could end with acquittal
But if he's this traitor you've been claiming for all these years and you have all this "plain sight evidence," impeachment and conviction across party lines should be no problem right? OH WAIT not only was this all a set up by the US intelligence community, obtaining opposition research isn't a crime, and both FBI and SC investigations were conducted by conflicted people who omitted exculpatory evidence in their findings. Not to mention this "obstruction" narrative implicates whether there's corrupt intent or not and Article II powers, there's no case to be made here.
Posted on 7/28/19 at 5:27 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
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what? How?
Our constitution makes clear that the winner of the majority of electoral college votes is the winner of the presidential election.
I'll tell you.
He's illegitimate because he won the presidency under false pretenses and with the help of a foreign power which he welcomed and conspired with.
The FBI should have informed the voting public of what they knew from their investigation of his campaign just as they did with Hillary.
The FBI made sure it wasn't a level playing field by broadcasting bogus dead end leads about Hillary's investigation while being completely silent that Trump was lying to the American voter when he said his campaign had no contacts with Russia.
The FBI should have had a press conference letting the voter know that Trump was lying when he said that.
But, at the end of the day we remember, that both Comey and Mueller are life long republicans.
Posted on 7/28/19 at 5:30 pm to PygmalionEffect
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The FBI should have informed the voting public of what they knew from their investigation of his campaign just as they did with Hillary.
Yeah, Obama should have really done something.
This post was edited on 7/28/19 at 5:31 pm
Posted on 7/28/19 at 5:30 pm to PygmalionEffect
quote:The Constitution says absolutely nothing about criminal activity as it relates to elections.
I'll tell you.
He's illegitimate because he won the presidency under false pretenses and with the help of a foreign power which he welcomed and conspired with.
The FBI should have informed the voting public of what they knew from their investigation of his campaign just as they did with Hillary.
The FBI made sure it wasn't a level playing field by broadcasting bogus dead end leads about Hillary's investigation while being completely silent that Trump was lying to the American voter when he said his campaign had no contacts with Russia.
The FBI should have had a press conference letting the voter know that Trump was lying when he said that.
But, at the end of the day we remember, that both Comey and Mueller are life long republicans.
If you win a majority of EC votes, you have been elected president. Period.
Posted on 7/28/19 at 5:31 pm to PygmalionEffect
quote:
he won the presidency under false pretenses and with the help of a foreign power which he welcomed and conspired with.
Mueller's report literally said there was no conspiracy
quote:
[T]he investigation did not establish that members of the Trump Campaign conspired or coordinated with the Russian government in its election interference activities.”
quote:
The FBI made sure it wasn't a level playing field by broadcasting bogus dead end leads about Hillary's investigation while being completely silent that Trump was lying to the American voter when he said his campaign had no contacts with Russia.
Proof you just lied:
LINK
This post was edited on 7/28/19 at 5:34 pm
Posted on 7/28/19 at 5:35 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
quote:
The Constitution says absolutely nothing about criminal activity as it relates to elections.
If you win a majority of EC votes, you have been elected president. Period.
he is president
an illegitimate one.
Posted on 7/28/19 at 5:42 pm to PygmalionEffect
And Hillary ain't and never will be
Posted on 7/28/19 at 5:44 pm to Bunyan
quote:
Proof you just lied:
Your link to the Mother Jones article talks about the discrepancy between Comey holding a press conference to announce that they are looking into a lead that might have been relevant to the closed Hillary investigation. That lead turned out to be false and a dead end lead and was done 2 weeks before the election and effectively sealed Hillary's fate, with the retraction admitted by the FBI after the damage had been done.
The article then talks about rumors being reported on by the press concerning Trump's campaign connections with Russian operatives.
The FBI never confirmed any of those stories before the election.
At the point we all went to vote in November, the FBI had not officially confirmed any of those reports and certainly not held a press conference like they did with Hillary's false lead to confirm to the American voter that Trump was lying when he said his campaign had no contacts with russia.
So actually your link confirms what I said.
I don't think you are a liar, I think you probably just can't help it.
Posted on 7/28/19 at 5:48 pm to PygmalionEffect
What exactly makes you think Trump is illegitimate and why? If he is why wasn't he indicted by 19 democrat lawyers?
Maybe the former democrat poster EZE can talk sense into you?
Maybe the former democrat poster EZE can talk sense into you?
Posted on 7/28/19 at 5:52 pm to PygmalionEffect
quote:
He's illegitimate because he won the presidency under false pretenses and with the help of a foreign power which he welcomed and conspired with.
Conspired with?
Posted on 7/28/19 at 5:52 pm to cajunangelle
quote:There is no point in trying to discuss this with someone who believes an insane conspiracy theory that the duly elected president conspired with the Russian government to win the election.
What exactly makes you think Trump is illegitimate and why? If he is why wasn't he indicted by 19 democrat lawyers?
Maybe the former democrat poster EZE can talk sense into you?
Anyone who actually believes that is on par with 9/11 truthers and those who believe in the lizard men who run the world.
They are batshit crazy.
Posted on 7/28/19 at 5:53 pm to cajunangelle
The house republicans should pose a bill to pay the legal expenses for any citizen that was falsely accused based on the bull shite dossier.
Essentially, it is the same perk they gave themselves when accused of sexual harassment.
Let's see if that will fly.
Essentially, it is the same perk they gave themselves when accused of sexual harassment.
Let's see if that will fly.
Posted on 7/28/19 at 6:01 pm to PygmalionEffect
You mean the definition of 'is' correct? Beautiful man just beautiful.
Posted on 7/28/19 at 6:03 pm to PygmalionEffect
quote:
He's illegitimate because he won the presidency under false pretenses
He won the EC, the Mueller Report (as corrupt and questionable as it is in terms of credibility) couldn't prove Americans "changed their vote" because of "Russian interference" whatever that entails, in fact I surmise people changed their vote from Trump to Hillary or Gary Johnson bc of the Russia disinformation in the Steele Dossier
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with the help of a foreign power which he welcomed and conspired with.
Prove he did this, Mueller and his Merry Band of Democrats couldn't and that's including all the exculpatory evidence they omitted, EVERY FOREIGN PERSON INVOLVED IN THIS IS CONNECTED TO EITHER THE CLINTONS, THE US INTELLIGENCE COMMUNITY, OR GPS, this was all a US intelligence community setup, moreover it's not a crime to get oppo research if that's indeed what happened, people need to stop claiming acts crimes that clearly aren't.
Moreover, even if "election crimes" were committed, it doesn't nullify an election, they just pay the FEC fines ask your boy Obama
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Trump was lying to the American voter when he said his campaign had no contacts with Russia.
I mean was he lying? All we know is the meeting with the GPS-connected Russian lawyer for 20 minutes about who knows and that his business was trying to get a deal done to develop some stuff in Russia, that's really basically it, the other foreign guys were US intelligence people in on the Russia sham engineered by the Obama DOJ and Clintons. Take an L, snowflake.
Posted on 7/28/19 at 6:06 pm to PygmalionEffect
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an illegitimate one.
So was Obama an illegitimate President for all the campaign laws he broke? Would Hillary have been an illegitimate President had she won despite her ties to Downer and her campaign financed the entire GPS/Steele Dossier operation, you know FOREIGN INTERFERENCE? Just absurd how people abuse language like this.
Posted on 7/28/19 at 6:08 pm to PygmalionEffect
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PygmalionEffect
I’ve missed lefties like this on here. Closest thing we’ve ever had to Rex. Dude is all in with what the DNC tells him to think
Posted on 7/28/19 at 6:09 pm to PygmalionEffect
quote:
There was rock solid evidence of a crime committed, multiple crimes. Over 900 former federal prosecutors that read the report all agreed that Trump committed obstruction of justice.
But here's the deal though: the President retains Article II powers, so acts that normally would be "obstruction of justice" wouldn't be as it relates to the President's constitutional authority. Moreover, it isn't a crime to think things and the obstruction statutes the Weissman team cited don't even apply to acts by public officials so those "prosecutors" were fundamentally wrong. Sorry not sorry to burst your bubble, kid.
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