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Accused Capitol rioter was a Fed with Top Secret security clearance

Posted on 2/9/21 at 3:33 pm
Posted by AlterDWI
Durango, Colorado
Member since Nov 2012
2154 posts
Posted on 2/9/21 at 3:33 pm
Imagine my shock. The top guys in the Proud Boys & the Oath Keepers are federal agents.

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A man who was charged in connection with the Jan. 6 Capitol riot claims he's worked for the FBI and holds top security clearance.
An attorney for Thomas Edward Caldwell, 66, made the revelation in a court filing on Monday arguing for Caldwell's release from detention pending trial.
"He has held a Top Secret Security Clearance since 1979 and has undergone multiple Special Background Investigations in support of his clearances," Caldwell's attorney wrote.
Caldwell, a Navy veteran, worked as a section chief for the FBI from 2009 to 2010, and he also ran a consulting firm that performed work for several U.S. government agencies, his attorney wrote.



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This post was edited on 2/9/21 at 3:35 pm
Posted by 1BIGTigerFan
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Posted on 2/9/21 at 3:34 pm to
Is that the old dude with plastic zip ties?
Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
94875 posts
Posted on 2/9/21 at 3:35 pm to
Congrats, Dems, you have now tied the goddamn FBI to the riots.

They getting impeached too?
Posted by diremustang
Member since Oct 2017
2287 posts
Posted on 2/9/21 at 3:38 pm to
If he was there working for the FBI do you really think they would bring him in and let him argue for his release based on his FBI connection?
Posted by AlterDWI
Durango, Colorado
Member since Nov 2012
2154 posts
Posted on 2/9/21 at 3:40 pm to
This Hill piece doesn't mention it, but there are other articles claiming that they have messages to/from this guy to others where they are calling him Commander & asking him about "the plan".
Posted by GhostOfFreedom
Member since Jan 2021
11671 posts
Posted on 2/9/21 at 3:50 pm to
The only hope we have against the federal bureaucracy are states and local Sherifs willing to start arresting Department of Just Us personnel across the nation.
Posted by gthog61
Irving, TX
Member since Nov 2009
71001 posts
Posted on 2/9/21 at 3:52 pm to
quote:

If he was there working for the FBI do you really think they would bring him in and let him argue for his release based on his FBI connection?



as inept as the FBI is?
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
35911 posts
Posted on 2/9/21 at 3:56 pm to
quote:

A man who was charged in connection with the Jan. 6 Capitol riot claims he's worked for the FBI and holds top security clearance.

So what?
They are trying the president and he was the CIC and had a top security clearance.

The Democrats are so far out there you have to wonder if they will start eating their own like the Nazis once did.
Posted by beaver
The 755 Club
Member since Sep 2009
46861 posts
Posted on 2/9/21 at 3:56 pm to
nearly 1.4 million americans had top secret security clearance as of 2017

so one in every 234 people

242 people have been arrested so far stemming from January 6

so makes sense
Posted by AlterDWI
Durango, Colorado
Member since Nov 2012
2154 posts
Posted on 2/9/21 at 4:01 pm to
quote:

If he was there working for the FBI do you really think they would bring him in and let him argue for his release based on his FBI connection?


I dunno. Do you think it's a coincidence that a guy who worked in military intelligence & the FBI for decades somehow becomes the leader of an accused "far-right" group & leads them in storming the halls of Congress?
Posted by Pelican fan99
Lafayette, Louisiana
Member since Jun 2013
34654 posts
Posted on 2/9/21 at 4:06 pm to
So the FBI infiltrates the proud boys and pushes them to do stuff like this then when they do they use it to impeach. The FBI is evil
Posted by kengel2
Team Gun
Member since Mar 2004
30694 posts
Posted on 2/9/21 at 4:09 pm to
This.

Its not like having the clearance gives you access to all sorts of cool shite.

Your CAC card doesnt magically unlock doors or file cabinets. You dont instantly know who murdered Kennedy.

Posted by AlterDWI
Durango, Colorado
Member since Nov 2012
2154 posts
Posted on 2/9/21 at 4:22 pm to
The security clearance isn't the point. The point is that the two main groups being blamed for this "insurrection", the Proud Boys & the Oath Keepers, are led by a federal informant & a former FBI station chief.
Posted by Bard
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Member since Oct 2008
51488 posts
Posted on 2/9/21 at 4:23 pm to
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If he was there working for the FBI do you really think they would bring him in and let him argue for his release based on his FBI connection?


In early 2016 the FBI had worked with Carter Page to bust some Russians attempting to infiltrate our energy sector. A few months later they were investigating him because he "somehow had ties to Russians".

The working arm of the FBI and the political arm of the FBI aren't always the same arm.
This post was edited on 2/9/21 at 4:24 pm
Posted by td1
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2015
2827 posts
Posted on 2/9/21 at 4:34 pm to
Subtle brag incoming: I also have clearance Clarence.

It is all still on a need to know basis and highly segregated/tiered. Like was said before, there is no magic “system” you can login and see whatever you want.
Posted by TerryDawg03
The Deep South
Member since Dec 2012
15652 posts
Posted on 2/9/21 at 4:44 pm to
quote:

Subtle brag incoming: I also have clearance Clarence.

It is all still on a need to know basis and highly segregated/tiered. Like was said before, there is no magic “system” you can login and see whatever you want.


And now the boys in Whitelaw get to work...
Posted by MarinaTigerEsq
Member since Aug 2019
1330 posts
Posted on 2/9/21 at 5:15 pm to
Standard setup. Guess what? The Las Vegas shooter’s wife listed her place of employment as the FBI. David Hogg’s father is FBI. Bin Laden comes from the richest, non-royal Saudi family. Yes, all this shite is rigged and spoon-fed to the American people to further an agenda.
Posted by MarinaTigerEsq
Member since Aug 2019
1330 posts
Posted on 2/9/21 at 5:16 pm to
quote:

If he was there working for the FBI do you really think they would bring him in and let him argue for his release based on his FBI connection?


Yes-this will be used to justify their Turkish-style purge of conservatives from law enforcement/military.
Posted by PsychTiger
Member since Jul 2004
98759 posts
Posted on 2/9/21 at 5:19 pm to
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Your CAC card doesnt magically unlock doors or file cabinets. You dont instantly know who murdered Kennedy.



That’s the CIA card.
Posted by Bard
Definitely NOT an admin
Member since Oct 2008
51488 posts
Posted on 2/10/21 at 8:44 am to
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Subtle brag incoming: I also have clearance Clarence.


Upvote for the Airplane! reference.
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