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According to Twitter, Strzok said the Steele dossier wasn’t the reason for Russia invest.

Posted on 7/12/18 at 4:22 pm
Posted by The Pirate King
Pangu
Member since May 2014
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Posted on 7/12/18 at 4:22 pm
I’m not watching, is this true? Didn’t sideshow Jim say that the dossier was the reason for the Russia investigation into the Trump campaign?
Posted by Wolfhound45
Hanging with Chicken in Lurkistan
Member since Nov 2009
120000 posts
Posted on 7/12/18 at 4:23 pm to
No one remembers anymore.
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
118823 posts
Posted on 7/12/18 at 4:27 pm to
Congress has been asking for the FBI origination document for this counterintelligence investigation forever. At a minimum paragraph one of the origination document will tell you why the counterintelligence investigation started.

The FBI (and DOJ) refuses to produce the document. It probably doesn't exist.
Posted by LuckyTiger
Someone's Alter
Member since Dec 2008
45280 posts
Posted on 7/12/18 at 4:29 pm to
That shite was shredded a long time ago by people working late one night.
Posted by OchoDedos
Republic of Texas
Member since Oct 2014
34102 posts
Posted on 7/12/18 at 4:30 pm to
That's BS. Nellie Orr(Fusion GPS) gave the dossier to her husband Bruce Orr, who gave it to Strzok. Then Strzok and Rosenstein went FISA judge shopping to get surveillance warrants.
Posted by BamaScoop
Panama City Beach, Florida
Member since May 2007
53842 posts
Posted on 7/12/18 at 4:30 pm to
This is what happens when the AG is a limp dick idiot that does nothing for two years. I’m sure all evidence has been changed or destroyed by this point.
Posted by udtiger
Over your left shoulder
Member since Nov 2006
98843 posts
Posted on 7/12/18 at 4:32 pm to
quote:

Didn’t sideshow Jim say that the dossier was the reason for the Russia investigation into the Trump campaign?


McCabe said they wouldn't have been able to get the FISA warrant without it.
Posted by TigerDoc
Texas
Member since Apr 2004
9904 posts
Posted on 7/12/18 at 4:34 pm to
quote:

Congress has been asking for the FBI origination document for this counterintelligence investigation forever. At a minimum paragraph one of the origination document will tell you why the counterintelligence investigation started. The FBI (and DOJ) refuses to produce the document. It probably doesn't exist.


The Nunes memo and the Schiff countermemo do both agree on the starting of the CI investigation that we later learned was called "crossfire hurricane". From the Nunes memo:

quote:

“The Papadopoulos information triggered the opening of an FBI counterintelligence investigation in late July 2016 by FBI agent Pete Strzok.”


Nunes Memo (see page 6)

Of course, Manafort had a DOJ investigation in EDVA prior to this and Carter Page had a recent FISA relatively recently and possibly concurrently with this (i.e. it may not be quite right to refer to the origin of L'Affaire Russe being a single investigation).
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
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Posted on 7/12/18 at 4:36 pm to
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That shite was shredded a long time ago by people working late one night.



The information never when though proper channels. If the counterinel information went from our Five Eyes Intelligence partners to a CIA analyst the investigation would have been nix in a heart beat. Instead the info was laundered though all the improper channels and never corroborated just to start a counterintelligence investigation.
This post was edited on 7/12/18 at 4:51 pm
Posted by Hurricane Mike
Member since Jun 2008
20059 posts
Posted on 7/12/18 at 4:41 pm to
Does anyone know which of the 4 FISA documents Rosenstein signed? I assumed the last one after he was appointed by Trump.
Posted by Hurricane Mike
Member since Jun 2008
20059 posts
Posted on 7/12/18 at 4:43 pm to
quote:

This is what happens when the AG is a limp dick idiot that does nothing for two years. I’m sure all evidence has been changed or destroyed by this point.


Thank god for Admiral Rogers. He may have enough original evidence to make up for it.
Posted by slaughlin
North Dad Gum Louisiana
Member since Apr 2008
3100 posts
Posted on 7/12/18 at 5:13 pm to
Scoop brings up a good point. We know what Sessions HAS NOT been doing. Anyone have any idea what he HAS been doing?
Posted by BeefDawg
Atlanta
Member since Sep 2012
4747 posts
Posted on 7/12/18 at 5:36 pm to
quote:

The Nunes memo and the Schiff countermemo do both agree on the starting of the CI investigation that we later learned was called "crossfire hurricane". From the Nunes memo:

quote:
“The Papadopoulos information triggered the opening of an FBI counterintelligence investigation in late July 2016 by FBI agent Pete Strzok.”


Nunes Memo (see page 6)

You mean the Honey-Pot entrapment campaign by FBI operative Halper, who fed PapaD with a bunch of fabrications, rumor, and innuendo, and then drunk PapaD repeated these rumors to the Australian Ambo, who then reported back to our FBI that PapaD was running around talking about Russians.

Yes, you are correct.
Posted by UcobiaA
The Gump
Member since Nov 2010
2816 posts
Posted on 7/12/18 at 6:09 pm to
Do you listen to Dan Bongino's podcast?
Posted by TJGator1215
FL/TN
Member since Sep 2011
14174 posts
Posted on 7/12/18 at 6:20 pm to
quote:

Congress has been asking for the FBI origination document for this counterintelligence investigation forever. At a minimum paragraph one of the origination document will tell you why the counterintelligence investigation started. 

The FBI (and DOJ) refuses to produce the document. It probably doesn't exist.


It's because it's an ongoing investigation.
Posted by SCLibertarian
Conway, South Carolina
Member since Aug 2013
36050 posts
Posted on 7/12/18 at 6:27 pm to
quote:

It's because it's an ongoing investigation.

So, based on your theory, just make investigations never-ending and transparency goes by the wayside.
Posted by bencoleman
RIP 7/19
Member since Feb 2009
37887 posts
Posted on 7/12/18 at 6:44 pm to
Well don't forget that Trump borrowed money from the largest bank in Europe. And get this, A Russian mobster had a checking account there too. Coincidence I think not. It's obvious that there was money laundering going on. That's what started all of this mess.
Posted by dkreller
Laffy
Member since Jan 2009
30304 posts
Posted on 7/12/18 at 7:14 pm to
Don’t forget that ruble and ruby are VERY close in spelling and I hear that Trump bought Melania a ruby one time so....


obviously Russians
Posted by djmicrobe
Planet Earth
Member since Jan 2007
4970 posts
Posted on 7/12/18 at 7:18 pm to
quote:

I’m not watching, is this true? Didn’t sideshow Jim say that the dossier was the reason for the Russia investigation into the Trump campaign?


Auntie Rosie won't provide the documents to Congress which state the reason Rosie requested the SC. Still waiting for Congress to vote to impeach Rosie for not providing subpoenaed documents.
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