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re: Academic says we are past the tipping point. Civil wars in the west coming
Posted on 6/14/25 at 4:18 pm to KiwiHead
Posted on 6/14/25 at 4:18 pm to KiwiHead
quote:At $37+ TRILLION in debt and approaching fiscal dominance, catastrophe is encroaching upon our problems.
We have problems, not catastrophes
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Posted on 6/14/25 at 4:20 pm to dnm3305
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We are not insulated from a war on our homeland that is already here.
What war is "already here"?
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There was not a mass global color revolution that was 20 years into works like it is is modern society. This wasn’t going on in the 60’s during the civil rights movement.
We aren't even close to the 60s, currently.
You're just feeling amplification due to social media isolating your viewing lens and amplifying your view within that framing.
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60 years ago propaganda did exist but it was so overwhelming 24 hrs a day and so far gone into total corruption as media is now.
60 years ago the media was the same DEM-left leaning propaganda tool with few other outlets, compared to today where there are infinite outlets and MSM is nowhere near as saturated into daily culture and, accordingly, nowhere near as impactful as propaganda.
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China owns 1000x more farmland in America than it did 60 years ago.
Well no shite. 60 years ago China was poor.
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We are taxed BY FAR more than Americans ever have been
No
People in your population cohort make a lot more so they're in a higher tax bracket.
Posted on 6/14/25 at 4:20 pm to momentoftruth87
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Not really a civil war just invaders and idiots who will die to support them over their fellow Americans
Right
I think Trump made a critical mistake by abandoning his original plan of targeting the worst criminals first. He's trying to get the numbers up and the mass deportation efforts and raids are what is causing all the backlash.
The original plan made more sense.
Posted on 6/14/25 at 4:27 pm to SlowFlowPro
quote:Yet we are just a year or two out of the 3rd largest Fed revenue collection in history as a percent of gdp.
People in your population cohort make a lot more so they're in a higher tax bracket.
Posted on 6/14/25 at 4:29 pm to Powerman
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I think Trump made a critical mistake by abandoning his original plan of targeting the worst criminals first. He's trying to get the numbers up and the mass deportation efforts and raids are what is causing all the backlash.
Trump could be personally escorting only the 100 most violent criminal illegals across the border, give them a hug and $100K to start over - and we'd be seeing the same backlash. The backlash is about Trump, not what's happening to illegals.
Reality is he's deported a ridiculously small number, and we're getting what we're getting.
Posted on 6/14/25 at 4:30 pm to NC_Tigah
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Yet we are just a year or two out of the 3rd largest Fed revenue collection in history as a percent of gdp.
Incomplete sample that's well within the range of Hauser's Law
Posted on 6/14/25 at 4:33 pm to SlowFlowPro
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No
I wish there was a legit understanding of what the cost of government in the US is today. We focus on taxes or fed spending, but the total cost of government, besides including state/local taxes, would include spending by Americans and businesses required to comply with government edicts.
I don't know what the number is and it's hard to get a sense for it, but given what we've seen out of government the last five years I bet the actual cost of gov't as a percent of GDP would be shocking.
Posted on 6/14/25 at 4:49 pm to SlowFlowPro
quote:No.
Incomplete sample
quote:Hauser's "law" is an incorrect presumption in the pretext of 19.5%.
within the range of Hauser's Law
Posted on 6/14/25 at 4:53 pm to Jjdoc
It’s inevitable. You have to forfeit the major metro cities. Nothing in or out land, air, or sea. Thats will shorten the war by 5 years easily.
This post was edited on 6/14/25 at 4:54 pm
Posted on 6/14/25 at 4:59 pm to kingbob
I am by no means a war monger, although I do like keeping a strong Military and not being afraid to use it.
However, I too think that we are beyond the tipping point and I don't see any way out of saving this country from the liberal, mentally unstable, nut jobs. I'm in my 50s but I can still shoot a gun and am in pretty good shape. If we want to save this country for our grand and great grand children, and down the line, we have to take that step, imo, as ugly as it may be. Otherwise, this country will fall, and it is well on the way.
However, I too think that we are beyond the tipping point and I don't see any way out of saving this country from the liberal, mentally unstable, nut jobs. I'm in my 50s but I can still shoot a gun and am in pretty good shape. If we want to save this country for our grand and great grand children, and down the line, we have to take that step, imo, as ugly as it may be. Otherwise, this country will fall, and it is well on the way.
Posted on 6/14/25 at 5:23 pm to NC_Tigah
We've been hearing that the debt is going to destroy us for 40 years...maybe it will....one day. I suspect 10 years from now we'll still be bitching about it, and we'll still be in better shape than anyone else.
Posted on 6/14/25 at 5:27 pm to Penrod
Thank you for that post!
Posted on 6/14/25 at 5:28 pm to Jjdoc
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David Betz of King’s College London
King's College on King Makers day.
Posted on 6/14/25 at 5:39 pm to KiwiHead
quote:Not from me, you haven't. I know that may sound arrogant. But THINK for yourself!
We've been hearing that the debt is going to destroy us for 40 years...
It really is not that complicated.
How does the Fed control inflation if the cost of control exceeds the cost of inflation?
Now then, calculate the cost of control of financed debt in a 137% Debt:GDP equation
Posted on 6/14/25 at 5:46 pm to KiwiHead
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We've been hearing that the debt is going to destroy us for 40 years...maybe it will....one day.
In 1980 Debt/GDP = 25%
In 2025 Debt/GDP is approaching 125%
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I suspect 10 years from now we'll still be bitching about it, and we'll still be in better shape than anyone else.
If we're in better shape than anyone else but have seen our middle class shrink by 50% and underclass grow by 50%, are we going to be satisfied?
You've got to believe fedgov is capable of doing things it has failed at to date for MMT to rule the day absent a dramatic and downward impact on the middle class.
Posted on 6/14/25 at 5:49 pm to redneck hippie
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redneck hippie
too many drugs I can see
Posted on 6/14/25 at 5:51 pm to redneck hippie
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Let me ask. What in your life is so horrible that you would want to take up arms against your fellow Americans? Are you hungry? Living in famine? Are you in grave danger? I suspect you are like the rest of us. Slightly overweight, have access to an abundance of food, education and ideas, posting from your $1000 phone in an air conditioned room. You probably have a loving family and hopefully kids that are smart, popular and prepared. What’s so bad?
The thing you don’t realize is it will be you and leftists/socialists who will take up arms and try to kill Americans. We will be defending ourselves. It’s always the tolerant well meaning socialists who kill innocent people. It’s not freedom loving conservatives.
Posted on 6/14/25 at 5:53 pm to redneck hippie
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Let me ask. What in your life is so horrible that you would want to take up arms against your fellow Americans?
Are you hungry? Living in famine? Are you in grave danger?
I suspect you are like the rest of us. Slightly overweight, have access to an abundance of food, education and ideas, posting from your $1000 phone in an air conditioned room. You probably have a loving family and hopefully kids that are smart, popular and prepared.
What’s so bad?
It's as though you've peered into my soul. Have a rainy evening upvote.
Posted on 6/14/25 at 5:54 pm to LSUAngelHere1
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We’re supposed to have rebellions every 3 decades to water the tree of liberty.
I chuckled at this too. Have a rainy evening upvote as well.
Posted on 6/14/25 at 5:57 pm to David_DJS
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The backlash is about Trump, not what's happening to illegals.
yep, and anyone with a brain understands that. Even if he were the worst President ever, he would get something right. However, as you said, no matter what he does, or how good of a policy is implemented, they will scream and cry and try every method possible to derail said policy....It is sickening, especially given the policies they want implemented.
We have only one way out imo...and if that doesn't happen, you can kiss the United States goodbye....we are over 200 years old now...about the average lifespan for a thriving country. As Paul Harvey predicted back in 1965, if this country is ever to fail, it will be an inside job. Well, that's exactly what is happening with all this lunatic shite going out from Dems.
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