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re: Abortion issue is a powder keg - in this point in time let it be
Posted on 5/16/19 at 11:35 am to FairhopeTider
Posted on 5/16/19 at 11:35 am to FairhopeTider
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Honestly, this issue is one where I feel like the GOP/Conservatives have wind in their sales. Most other issues like Gay Marriage, Healthcare, Immigration, it’s like we’re playing defense.
With the advancement in science and the ability to see clearly what’s going on in the womb, the pro-life argument just makes too much sense. At minimum, we’re trying to protect a life. The Left resorts to hyperbole like “controlling women’s bodies” that really doesn’t mean anything in reality.
The narrative, the science, and the moral high ground now belong to the Right. Time to keep forging ahead.
I agree. I'm very tempted to caveat and say "well if the country isn't ready for it we're likely to endure a pro-abortion backlash." But ultimately, if these laws have the desired effect, even temporarily, isn't that the point?
I know there are political calculations at play, but at the root is increasing the value placed on human life.
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Posted on 5/16/19 at 11:37 am to Covingtontiger77
December 2012, Sandy Hook school shooting.
Conservatives. "If we ban guns, people will just find a way to get them!"
May 2019.
Conservatives. "We must ban abortion!"
Conservatives. "If we ban guns, people will just find a way to get them!"
May 2019.
Conservatives. "We must ban abortion!"
Posted on 5/16/19 at 11:57 am to bleedpg
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ou have no morals if you don't recognize that abortion is out right murder of the most innocent. You let money guide how you think of morals
I don’t worry about the collective. I only concern myself with the collective when the collective effects me and my bottom line, my quality of life-dudes in chicks bathrooms, and the like.
Otherwise, you people are your on as far as I am concerned.
This post was edited on 5/16/19 at 11:57 am
Posted on 5/16/19 at 11:58 am to Covingtontiger77
Seminal! Good touch
Posted on 5/16/19 at 12:03 pm to HeadLightBanDit
It's amazing to watch a group of people construct their own demise by standing up for the people who will ultimately replace them and what they cherish
A more noble act, we'll never see
A more noble act, we'll never see
Posted on 5/16/19 at 12:03 pm to Covingtontiger77
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This post was edited on 8/14/19 at 2:12 am
Posted on 5/16/19 at 12:05 pm to Covingtontiger77
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you people are on your own as far as I am concerned.
Seems like we have been for a very long time. Have a good day.
Posted on 5/16/19 at 12:20 pm to JuiceTerry
Can they truly fathom the implications of that logic???. That is the question. I'm guessing not.
Should their plans come to fruition. Do they really think the hundreds of thousands of underprivileged, poverty stricken, and likely minority children that will suddenly flood the system will grow up to be dye in the wool conservatives? If so, then they are seriously deluding themselves.
One day they are going to look around and have the audacity to say..."My God. What happened to the America I loved!?!"
Should their plans come to fruition. Do they really think the hundreds of thousands of underprivileged, poverty stricken, and likely minority children that will suddenly flood the system will grow up to be dye in the wool conservatives? If so, then they are seriously deluding themselves.
One day they are going to look around and have the audacity to say..."My God. What happened to the America I loved!?!"
This post was edited on 5/16/19 at 12:23 pm
Posted on 5/16/19 at 12:32 pm to HeadLightBanDit
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Should their plans come to fruition. Do they really think the hundreds of thousands of underprivileged, poverty stricken, and likely minority children that will suddenly flood the system will grow up to be dye in the wool conservatives? If so, then they are seriously deluding themselves.
That's an acceptable trade-off for them, though, because this is well and truly about the sanctity of embryonic life, and not at all about controlling a woman's body and sexuality. That's why the law also outlaws fertility clinics that routinely harvest and fertilize multiple eggs to ultimately use the most viable for implantation.
What's that? The Alabama law doesn't actually outlaw that practice and still allows fertility clinics to literally throw away hundreds to thousands of viable eggs, because " The egg in the lab doesn't apply. It's not a woman. She's not pregnant"?
Huh, that's interesting. It's almost like that's completely inconsistent with what proponents say the law is for, which is to protect the sanctity of all unborn life. So the law only applies when it comes to a woman who's had sex, and not in a blanket fashion to all embryos? That's weird.
Posted on 5/16/19 at 12:34 pm to HeadLightBanDit
As I've said, I don't have strong convictions either way. I don't like abortion. But the rates are coming down naturally every year without draconian laws being enforced. This is such a weird windmill to tilt at, right now, especially. Making this a priority right now could literally cost them an election.
Posted on 5/16/19 at 12:36 pm to JuiceTerry
They want SCOTUS to intervene in one of these cases. They want one of them kicked up to the high court, that's why they are worded so extremely.
Speaking strictly in political strategy terms, it's an incredibly stupid play by Conservatives.
They should stick with the economy and immigration reform. Even I can begrudgingly admit Trump's economy is good right now. They can win 2020 on that.
But they just can't help themselves from kicking the hornet's nest of abortion. Perhaps they feel obligated to do something for evangelicals after they got in bed with Trump's immoral arse.
What many people on both sides of the argument fail to understand is IF Roe V. Wade were to be overturned it would simply make abortion a state's rights issue. Effectively changing very little, other than requiring a short trip to a state that's not batshit crazy.
Speaking strictly in political strategy terms, it's an incredibly stupid play by Conservatives.
They should stick with the economy and immigration reform. Even I can begrudgingly admit Trump's economy is good right now. They can win 2020 on that.
But they just can't help themselves from kicking the hornet's nest of abortion. Perhaps they feel obligated to do something for evangelicals after they got in bed with Trump's immoral arse.
What many people on both sides of the argument fail to understand is IF Roe V. Wade were to be overturned it would simply make abortion a state's rights issue. Effectively changing very little, other than requiring a short trip to a state that's not batshit crazy.
Posted on 5/16/19 at 12:45 pm to HeadLightBanDit
These backwards arse southern states have no concept of strategy. Probably why we lost the damn war.
Just wait until after the election to ramp up this rhetoric
Just wait until after the election to ramp up this rhetoric
Posted on 5/16/19 at 12:49 pm to Covingtontiger77
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There are many conservatives that are too lazy to vote. However you strike a nerve with them if they feel Roe is going to be overruled.
Fixed it for you
Posted on 5/16/19 at 12:50 pm to JuiceTerry
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These backwards arse southern states
And you live here why?
Posted on 5/16/19 at 12:51 pm to 14&Counting
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It's not hyperbole a they do have a point here.
No, they dont. The body in question is not the potential mother. They would love to permanently frame the debate that way though.
Posted on 5/16/19 at 12:53 pm to JuiceTerry
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Making this a priority right now could literally cost them an election.
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JuiceTerry
So, 100% chance this is a good move for the Republican party.
Posted on 5/16/19 at 12:54 pm to Covingtontiger77
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Covingtontiger77
So you don't think aborting babies, not fetuses, after being born, is something we should keep our mouths silent about? I sure as hell don't.
Posted on 5/16/19 at 1:04 pm to LSU Patrick
Patrick full of dread
Waits in vain for inner peace
Lo! 9 comes for him
Roll damn Tide, buddy
Waits in vain for inner peace
Lo! 9 comes for him
Roll damn Tide, buddy
Posted on 5/16/19 at 1:05 pm to JuiceTerry
It must suck to be such a loud mouthed idiot like yourself. Welcome back after your long time in hiding by the way.
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