re: Abdul el Sayed claims to be a physician

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Per the AMA’s definition, this is false.

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Yea, I believe AMA is directed more towards clinicians. Don't want medical students and advanced practice practitioners introducing themselves to patients as physicians.

Tha AMA is to the legal profession what the ABA is to the legal profession.

Mostly leftist kooks.

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You cited an AMA definition that was sloppy at best

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Talk to the American Medical Association about that one bub, not me

They are pretty damn clear about it regardless of your feelings on the matter.

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Don't want medical students and advanced practice practitioners introducing themselves to patients as physicians.

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They mention that in the definition as well, but the first bullet point is pretty hard to misinterpret.
Again, y’all are free to disagree with them - but to say it isn’t clear is disingenuous at best.

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Again, y’all are free to disagree with them - but to say it isn’t clear is disingenuous at best.

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I didn't say it wasn't clear. My take is they have a specific audience who already meet the required assumptions. I'm trying to be generous.

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Seems to me he has

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from your link:

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Michigan Democratic Senate candidate Abdul El-Sayed for years has publicly said he’s a physician — but there’s overwhelming evidence that he’s had no experience as a licensed medical doctor.

This April, he gave an interview to a local TV journalist where he talked up his credentials as a physician multiple times. In March, he told a group of Teamsters nurses that he had “been in enough codes to watch who really does the work” and said that same month on a podcast that “I’ve been a doctor my whole career.”

His LinkedIn profile currently says he’s a “physician,” and late last month he called himself “a physician and epidemiologist” at a Council of Baptist Pastors debate in Detroit.

But according to a review of Michigan and New York state medical records, he’s never been granted a medical license in those states. El-Sayed’s hands-on experience treating patients appears to be a short clinical rotation called a sub-internship at a small hospital in Manhattan for four weeks at the end of medical school, he told a podcast in 2022, where he said his “job was to be the, like, worst doctor on the team” and he was “cosplaying a doctor.”

“The perception in Michigan is that he is, at least at one point in his life, a licensed physician,” said Chris Dewitt, an unaligned Democratic strategist based in Michigan. “That apparently is not the case, and it blows up a big part of his campaign.”

But his history of suggesting to voters that he served as a practicing physician — with examples stretching back almost a decade — has muddled his personal history, adding confusion to his otherwise impressive achievements. In 2018, when El-Sayed was running for governor of Michigan, Crain’s Detroit Business published a story that also examined his claims of being a physician but not having a license to practice medicine in Michigan.

“I think there’s a lot of ways that one serves as a physician. And I think the work that I have done and I continue to do is true to the core and the ethos of medicine,” El-Sayed told Crain’s Detroit Business at the time. “And when I took my Hippocratic Oath, that is still an oath that I use to guide my work today. I’m a physician because I have an MD, but I’m also a physician because of the work that I’ve dedicated my career to.”

The state of Michigan prohibits anyone who is not licensed “to induce the belief” that they have a license or are registered to practice medicine.

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He’s been pretty outspoken that he’s never been licensed as a practicing physician

He is absolutely, unequivocally, a doctor.

Whether he’s a physician or not depends on whether you’re going by the AMA definition or the legal one

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Talk to the American Medical Association about that one bub, not me

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Critical Theorists relish opportunities to quote poorly written, mistake-filled sources and claim they represent reality.

The problem with Critical Theory is its application leaves the applicant looking like an intellectual incapable of logic, rationale, and/or independent thought.

You are proposing to call someone physician, when he is no more legally qualified to care for any human being on the entire planet than a random homeless person?
Really??
Think about that. (I know it's asking a lot, but try)

You claim because some idiot at the AMA wrote something idiotic on the AMA website, it becomes "truth" to you?

Are you embarrassed?

Your wailing is noted.

However, it changes nothing about the AMA’s definition of a physician,

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Your wailing is noted

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So, the AMA supports illegal premises?
That is your position re: the formal AMA position?

A physician is someone who could not qualify for internship-residency because he could not pass the USLME-Step 3, and is therefore qualified for medial licensure nowhere on the globe?
That is your position re: the formal AMA position?

I'd guarantee on a debate-stage, the AMA would retreat from an illegal definition of "physician" faster than you can blink.

Yet, here you are.