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re: ABC Poll Shutdown Polling: 53% Blame Trump GOP 29% Blame Democrats

Posted on 1/13/19 at 3:48 am to
Posted by MissyTiger
Member since Nov 2018
538 posts
Posted on 1/13/19 at 3:48 am to
quote:

50% of those who oppose the wall want Democrats to continue to refuse funding the wall


NPCs
Posted by Little Trump
Florida
Member since Nov 2017
5817 posts
Posted on 1/13/19 at 4:56 am to
Who put out fake polls in 2016 presidential election?

Posted by udtiger
Over your left shoulder
Member since Nov 2006
98474 posts
Posted on 1/13/19 at 7:10 am to
My interpretation:

Democrats are retarded and shouldn't be allowed to vote.
Posted by NC_Tigah
Carolinas
Member since Sep 2003
123780 posts
Posted on 1/13/19 at 7:14 am to
quote:

Actually a good sample
Is it.

Really?

When 40% of a "good sample" are not labeled as leaners, but are rather termed "independents", how are we to know whether it is a good sample or not?

It's analogous to surveying the population at large on a political question, yet not testing the sample at all for Dems or Republicans. In a world where national elections are considered a blowout if 5% separates the candidates, yet a survey gives Dems a 5% advantage, one would assume (in an accurate survey) AT LEAST a slight GOP lean to the indy group.

Was that the case in this "good sample"?

Further, this survey holds that just 12% of Democrats favor extensions of the US-Mexico border wall. Yet 2 yrs ago >85% of them heavily supported a POTUS who built more wall than Donald Trump has. Either the surveyed audience is a group of imbeciles, or there is a flaw in the poll somewhere, or both.

Wouldn't you agree?
Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
48096 posts
Posted on 1/13/19 at 7:16 am to
quote:

In before all the “ABC/WaPo numbers cant be trusted” responses


Those who do not learn from history....
Posted by jeffsdad
Member since Mar 2007
21368 posts
Posted on 1/13/19 at 7:18 am to
Surprised ABC didn't say 100% oppose Trump.
Posted by CleverUserName
Member since Oct 2016
12519 posts
Posted on 1/13/19 at 7:22 am to
From a link in the article

quote:

METHODOLOGY – This ABC News/Washington Post poll was conducted by landline and cellular telephone Jan. 8-11, 2019, in English and Spanish, among a random national sample of 788 adults


Nothing like a gauge of national interest by interviewing a pool of people that can be found at a Friday night high school football game.

It did get Hillary elected after all.
Posted by deltaland
Member since Mar 2011
90498 posts
Posted on 1/13/19 at 7:39 am to
Wapo is very fake news
Posted by cajunangelle
Member since Oct 2012
146549 posts
Posted on 1/13/19 at 7:42 am to
They asked 54% Democrats
Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
73271 posts
Posted on 1/13/19 at 7:44 am to
quote:

Trump is not for the weak of hearts and cucks like yourself.


Exactly
Posted by TrueTiger
Chicken's most valuable
Member since Sep 2004
67661 posts
Posted on 1/13/19 at 7:46 am to
The way the Constitution has us set up, this is a shared responsibility, like a pregnancy.
Posted by i am dan
NC
Member since Aug 2011
24694 posts
Posted on 1/13/19 at 7:50 am to
quote:


They can't


No need to try. Who cares?
Posted by Ace Midnight
Between sanity and madness
Member since Dec 2006
89480 posts
Posted on 1/13/19 at 7:55 am to
Fake news poll is still fake news.
Posted by BestBanker
Member since Nov 2011
17474 posts
Posted on 1/13/19 at 8:07 am to
quote:

ABC Poll

Stopped reading here.

Fake news.
Posted by FightinTigersDammit
Louisiana North
Member since Mar 2006
34603 posts
Posted on 1/13/19 at 8:08 am to
After virtually the entire media blames Trump, amazingly a media poll finds out 53% of those polled also blame Trump. Frankly, I'm shocked it's that low.
Posted by Jake88
Member since Apr 2005
68039 posts
Posted on 1/13/19 at 8:28 am to
Polls like this will never be held up against actual results. If they choose to, they can manipulate it.
Posted by AggieHank86
Texas
Member since Sep 2013
42941 posts
Posted on 1/13/19 at 8:31 am to
quote:

Trumps supporters want their wall funding and there is no way politically he can walk away without it. Trump simply can’t afford to back down.
Accurate
Posted by AggieHank86
Texas
Member since Sep 2013
42941 posts
Posted on 1/13/19 at 8:34 am to
quote:

show us ABC's accurate polling for the presidential election
GIGO.

If people are too embarrassed to admit which candidate they support, polls will not be accurate.
Posted by AggieHank86
Texas
Member since Sep 2013
42941 posts
Posted on 1/13/19 at 8:37 am to
quote:

ABC was almost dead on in 2016
Popular vote, ABC was 49:46. Actual vote was 48:46.

Damned close to perfect.

How did they do with EC, though?
This post was edited on 1/13/19 at 8:38 am
Posted by NC_Tigah
Carolinas
Member since Sep 2003
123780 posts
Posted on 1/13/19 at 8:38 am to
quote:

If people are too embarrassed to admit which candidate they support, polls will not be accurate.
Or if "random samples" are not random at all, but rather manipulated surveys IAW the pollsters expectations for population distribution, polls will not be accurate.
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