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re: A random girl at an SEC football game vs Chris Nolan’s Helen of Troy

Posted on 9/8/26 at 11:10 am to
Posted by GoblinGuide
Member since Nov 2017
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Posted on 9/8/26 at 11:10 am to
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Just a reminder of what a clown world DEI and woke BS has turned portions of our society into


You've learned an important lesson today. Sometimes people like different things than you. Well done!
Posted by VoxDawg
Glory, Glory
Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 9/8/26 at 11:15 am to
Posted by VoxDawg
Glory, Glory
Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 9/8/26 at 11:15 am to
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Racism

Posted by Cosmo
glassman's guest house
Member since Oct 2003
132851 posts
Posted on 9/8/26 at 11:18 am to
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That is what is sort of comical about this. She is not an historical figure - she is a mythological character.


There was a trojan war and homer wrote a story about it

How much is fact and fiction we will never know
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
132181 posts
Posted on 9/8/26 at 11:29 am to
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There was a trojan war and homer wrote a story about it



Homer wrote about it 400 years later.

There would have been extremely little "historical fact" about it by the team he wrote it, just a lot of stories and legends passed down mostly orally
Posted by JimEverett
Member since May 2020
2679 posts
Posted on 9/8/26 at 11:31 am to
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There was a trojan war and homer wrote a story about it

How much is fact and fiction we will never know


The idea that the Odyssey documents history seems wild, given how obvious it seems to me to be a work a work of fiction.
But yeah, I guess some people do believe in the historical accuracy of Zeus impregnating mortals, among other things.
Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
100111 posts
Posted on 9/8/26 at 11:32 am to
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What did she look like?


Like every other Spartan Princess

Please link me to any spartan women that looked like Lupita
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
175748 posts
Posted on 9/8/26 at 11:33 am to
The cyclops might give a pretty clear indication of how seriously to take the story as some historical artifact. And you don't need to see the movie to know about it.
Posted by sitd
Member since Mar 2026
44 posts
Posted on 9/8/26 at 11:40 am to
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The cyclops might give a pretty clear indication of how seriously to take the story as some historical artifact.


it worries me how many people including Elon Musk called this movie "historical"
Posted by soonerinlOUisiana
South of I-10
Member since Aug 2012
2838 posts
Posted on 9/8/26 at 11:42 am to
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Is this, like, "Racism Day"? Not sure what to make of OP.


If you’re not sure what to make of the op, then just shut the frick up with the racism bullshite.
Posted by Cosmo
glassman's guest house
Member since Oct 2003
132851 posts
Posted on 9/8/26 at 11:45 am to
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But yeah, I guess some people do believe in the historical accuracy of Zeus impregnating mortals, among other things.


The basis of christianity is god impregnating Mary via immaculate conception.

I think the vast majority of the odyssey is fiction but some characters are likely real people
This post was edited on 9/8/26 at 11:47 am
Posted by soonerinlOUisiana
South of I-10
Member since Aug 2012
2838 posts
Posted on 9/8/26 at 11:48 am to
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Still melting about the casting in a movie is on brand for you softies


Too fricking stupid to know the difference between banter and a meltdown. Not surprising.
Posted by UtahCajun
Member since Jul 2021
7691 posts
Posted on 9/8/26 at 11:52 am to
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It's not even what the movie was about

The movie is about a modernized, dumbed down version of perhaps the greatest epic ever told.

The modernizing and dumbing down is why I am not interested.

But, if whitewashing was bad, blackwashing must be bad. There is zero percent chance that Helen was anything but SE European. Even the Greeks themselves were up in arms about the casting choices. As far as I know, not a single Greek was in it.
Posted by soonerinlOUisiana
South of I-10
Member since Aug 2012
2838 posts
Posted on 9/8/26 at 11:55 am to
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You've learned an important lesson today. Sometimes people like different things than you. Well done!


Yeah. Some people are attracted to ugly women. But then I’ve known that at least since the Clintons became famous.
This post was edited on 9/8/26 at 12:09 pm
Posted by KCT
Psalm 23:5
Member since Feb 2010
51910 posts
Posted on 9/8/26 at 11:56 am to
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Still melting about the casting in a movie is on brand for you softies


quote:


Powerman


It has to do with the bigger issue of the agenda behind it, but you're too much of a dysfunctional idiot to see it.

Seriously, what a disingenuous putz you are.
Posted by JimEverett
Member since May 2020
2679 posts
Posted on 9/8/26 at 11:57 am to
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The basis of christianity is god impregnating Mary via immaculate conception.

I think the vast majority of the odyssey is fiction but some characters are likely real people


Understood.

I think maybe a better way to put (in my mind) is to say we don't know what Homer's intent was. He may have been thinking he was writing history. I have no idea. I have no idea if Homer even had a concept of history, at least in the way we do.
Most Christinas, of course, believe the Gospels are documenting history - and it is likely the Gospel authors felt that way.

Anyways - I don't like the DEI mandates at all. But making Helen of Troy African or black just doesn't bother me. Oddly enough though, to show my inconsistency, I probably would bitch and moan if they make James Bond anything but a suave native Englisman.
Posted by JimEverett
Member since May 2020
2679 posts
Posted on 9/8/26 at 11:58 am to
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As far as I know, not a single Greek was in it.


Good point. Where is the bitching about that?
Posted by td01241
Savannah
Member since Nov 2012
30730 posts
Posted on 9/8/26 at 12:02 pm to
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Posted by ATrillionaire
Houston
Member since Sep 2008
3617 posts
Posted on 9/8/26 at 12:02 pm to
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That word has lost any power it once held

I don't see how. People decry DEI all day everyday on this site.
Posted by UtahCajun
Member since Jul 2021
7691 posts
Posted on 9/8/26 at 12:02 pm to
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we don't know what Homer's intent was. He may have been thinking he was writing history. I have no idea. I have no idea if Homer even had a concept of history, at least in the way we do

Pretty sure it was always understood as fiction
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I don't like the DEI mandates at all. But making Helen of Troy African or black just doesn't bother me

So there would be no pushback at all if we made the Noble Mantis of Bushman mythology a white dude?
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 Oddly enough though, to show my inconsistency, I probably would bitch and moan if they make James Bond anything but a suave native Englisman

Get ready. The next Bond is not gonna be an indigenous Brit.
This post was edited on 9/8/26 at 12:05 pm
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