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re: A jury decided they were not guilty. A judge sentenced them to life in prison anyway

Posted on 11/29/23 at 6:45 am to
Posted by 4cubbies
Member since Sep 2008
50447 posts
Posted on 11/29/23 at 6:45 am to
So you’re using “accepted a plea deal” and “gave a confession” synonymously. There was no detailed confession or any actual confession. They accepted a plea deal.
Posted by UncleFestersLegs
Member since Nov 2010
11014 posts
Posted on 11/29/23 at 6:49 am to
A plea may require allocution where the defendant admits to the details of the crime in exchange for a reduced sentence
Posted by NC_Tigah
Carolinas
Member since Sep 2003
124365 posts
Posted on 11/29/23 at 6:51 am to
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So you’re using “accepted a plea deal” and “gave a confession” synonymously.
What did they plea guilty to?
quote:

There was no detailed confession or any actual confession.
You're arguing with someone who largely agrees with your concerns here. But a guilty plea is tantamount to confession, regardless.
Posted by Animal
Member since Dec 2017
4224 posts
Posted on 11/29/23 at 6:51 am to
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They’re guilty of something, lock em up


I saw this and almost took the bait.

quote:

el Gaucho


Then I saw this.
Posted by Lutcher Lad
South of the Mason-Dixon Line
Member since Sep 2009
5820 posts
Posted on 11/29/23 at 6:54 am to
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and prevent further miscarriages of justice from occurring like the one we see in this case.”


Then, what they're doing to Donald Trump is very similar.
Yeah, it's very wrong when the system can be manipulated by those in power to do their dirty work.
Posted by Animal
Member since Dec 2017
4224 posts
Posted on 11/29/23 at 6:55 am to
quote:

David Chappell


"I'm Rick James, bitch!
Posted by lsuson
Metairie
Member since Oct 2013
12290 posts
Posted on 11/29/23 at 6:58 am to
Judge should be removed
Posted by dgnx6
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2006
69095 posts
Posted on 11/29/23 at 7:00 am to
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Is it really that hard to believe that two black guys were railroaded for killing a white cop?


It’s also not hard to believe a black guy shot a cop in a drug stop.





Posted by GhostOfFreedom
Member since Jan 2021
11856 posts
Posted on 11/29/23 at 7:03 am to
Neither did the OJ acquittal (based on juror racism and hero worship). Wonder what the real story is in this case.
Posted by dgnx6
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2006
69095 posts
Posted on 11/29/23 at 7:05 am to
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Odds tell us that if more black people are in jail, more black people have also been wrongfully convicted…. Especially considering it has and continues to happen with regularity.



I saw this story recently where two black people fought with a cop because they were smoking pot at a bus stop bench.

Maybe it’s because there is a larger cultural problem there. It’s actually an entitlement to think you can just do drugs in public then fight people telling you you can’t.



Posted by dgnx6
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2006
69095 posts
Posted on 11/29/23 at 7:11 am to
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It looks like it’s about race.


In northern mostly white states, you may have a point.

And you don’t realize you are being the racist by suggesting it’s about race. Because either way you slice it you are saying people are poor because they are black and commit crimes more because they are black.
Posted by shinerfan
Duckworld(Earth-616)
Member since Sep 2009
22645 posts
Posted on 11/29/23 at 8:23 am to
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they wouldn’t have pleaded guilty if the facts were in their favor.




Public defenders are all about the quick plea bargain. Facts be damned.
Posted by AlwysATgr
Member since Apr 2008
16599 posts
Posted on 11/29/23 at 8:31 am to
So a judge can usurp the jury's verdict? That would seem to overturn the whole foundation of our justice system.
Posted by oogabooga68
Member since Nov 2018
27194 posts
Posted on 11/29/23 at 8:31 am to
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It’s also not hard to believe a black guy shot a cop in a drug stop.







If Cubbies possessed an ounce of self-awareness, she/it would realize you just smacked the shitt out of her....
Posted by 4cubbies
Member since Sep 2008
50447 posts
Posted on 11/29/23 at 9:04 am to
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What did they plea guilty to?
one pleaded guilty to manslaughter and the other to accessory after the fact, I believe.

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You're arguing with someone who largely agrees with your concerns here. But a guilty plea is tantamount to confession, regardless.
the Supreme Court agrees with you, but sometimes they get it wrong. IMO, they got this wrong.
Posted by oogabooga68
Member since Nov 2018
27194 posts
Posted on 11/29/23 at 9:08 am to
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IMO, they got this wrong.


You are brainwashed.

You see black people as helpless pets.

Everything you do or say is viewed thru a paranoid prism.

No one her doubts you "think" they got this wrong.
Posted by Bourre
Da Parish
Member since Nov 2012
20320 posts
Posted on 11/29/23 at 9:10 am to
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the Supreme Court agrees with you, but sometimes they get it wrong. IMO, they got this wrong.


Some leftist internet twat thinks she knows better than the USSC. Shocking. The amount of narcissism from Marxist progressives is insane.

You are not in the pursuit of justice for victims, you only care about settling scores for black people, regardless if they were guilty of the crimes they committed. You are a racist
This post was edited on 11/29/23 at 9:12 am
Posted by VOR
Member since Apr 2009
63694 posts
Posted on 11/29/23 at 9:15 am to
In a plea deal, a verdict of “guilty” is entered for some offense, even if a lesser one.
Regardless, the guilty plea counts the same as a conviction.
Posted by 4cubbies
Member since Sep 2008
50447 posts
Posted on 11/29/23 at 9:20 am to
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Because they are criminally involved more per capita. That's a fact.
It’s hard to know if this is accurate. They certainly are arrested, charged and convicted more than any other race but it’s impossible to know if that’s due to increased criminal activity or just racial bias in the criminal justice system.

Black men sentenced to more time for committing the exact same crime as a white person, study finds

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The southern states have lower disparities because there are more poor whites. Again, finances and criminal involvement are linked. That's a fact.
There are also just more Blacks in southern states. I’m really curious about what’s going on in California. They incarcerate a ton of Black people.







Posted by 4cubbies
Member since Sep 2008
50447 posts
Posted on 11/29/23 at 9:21 am to
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No harder to believe than a white cop getting railroaded for trying to apprehend a black male ODing in fentanol.
Apples and oranges.
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