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re: a goat herder in the desert with a machine gun didn't do 911

Posted on 9/22/22 at 2:29 pm to
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
112624 posts
Posted on 9/22/22 at 2:29 pm to
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and conveniently took out $7B in insurance that INCLUDED terrorist attacks.
Are those not very obvious things that any person with a brain would do?

What would be the argument to NOT insure the buildings? Given the terrorist attack a decade before and it always being thought of as a hot spot, what would be the argument for not insuring it for terrorist attacks?

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all coincidence man

WHen you think it's a "coincidence" and some weird oddity that a $3bil building was insured, I'm not sure what else to tell you.
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
170613 posts
Posted on 9/22/22 at 2:30 pm to
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So if that's the case then what happened to the plane and all its passengers that we're told hit the Pentagon?


Apparently those are all the crisis actors
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
170613 posts
Posted on 9/22/22 at 2:31 pm to
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Literally the dumbest quote I've ever read.


It's accurate

Conspiracy theorists are dumb and fear the chaotic world we live in

So it's better to latch on to some good vs evil narrative
Posted by Indefatigable
Member since Jan 2019
35708 posts
Posted on 9/22/22 at 2:39 pm to
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You’re missing the point of my post. There’s no reason to feed the conspiracy crapola if there are other vids that clearly show the aircraft striking the Pentagon. When the only vid ever shown of the Pentagon being slammed by some object is inconclusive it will always allow people to think there’s a conspiracy.

Its nonsensical to think that there wouldn't be conspiracy regardless.
Posted by RollTide1987
Augusta, GA
Member since Nov 2009
69683 posts
Posted on 9/22/22 at 2:43 pm to
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In case you haven't noticed, tons of people can be involved in a scam/coverup.


And one of those would be my uncle, one of the most anti-government people I know, who personally witnessed American Flight 77 fly into the Pentagon while on his way to work that morning.
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
112624 posts
Posted on 9/22/22 at 2:43 pm to
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Apparently those are all the crisis actors

Worse than that. They did find body parts at the Pentagon.

So that plane landed somewhere, the folks on the plane were hacked to death, and the body parts transported and dropped off at the Pentagon.

Posted by LookSquirrel
Old Millville
Member since Oct 2019
7654 posts
Posted on 9/22/22 at 3:12 pm to
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Do you even physics?


Thanks for the question.

As fate would have it, I did some on the 92nd floor of, (hell I forget which one but), one of the Towers in 1988.

Pretty amazing really. I was young and working with a team, including Dr. Morton Corn, doing ventilation studies and air monitoring for respirable particulates, (less than 5 microns). Asbestos abatement of that particular floor was being conducted, which required the entire floor be free of all partitions and furniture. It was a remarkable view when you consider how few I-beams were present with a couple elevator shafts. That is because the outer "skin" was to bear a significant amount of the load and also provide for lateral sway from high winds and such. That was strange to feel it sway in the wind. They were remarkable structures with the spectacular silver interlacing beams of steel, referred to as the "skin" on the outside. This allowed for a 360-degree view of the city and a close up visual of this outer skin, made of solid steel that seemed impregnable.

It was beautiful
Posted by Bayoutigre
29.9N 92.1W
Member since Feb 2007
5900 posts
Posted on 9/22/22 at 3:36 pm to
as for the pentagon her name is April Gallup,look up her testimony on YT
Posted by NCIS_76
Member since Jan 2021
5246 posts
Posted on 9/22/22 at 3:38 pm to
People need to be caught back up on Halliburton and Cheney.

I’m not saying Kerry was right or wrong in the first part below.

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WASHINGTON, Sept. 27, 2004 - Senator John Kerry has suggested, though never explicitly stated, that the Bush administration has an improper relationship with Halliburton, the company where Dick Cheney was chief executive from 1995 until he left in 2000 to run for vice president.


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The Bush campaign maintains that Mr. Cheney has cut his ties with Halliburton and that the administration has given the company no special treatment. WHAT KERRY SAYS At a community center in Albuquerque on Sept. 17, Mr. Kerry declared: "Dick Cheney's old company Halliburton has profited from the mess in Iraq at the expense of American troops and taxpayers. While Halliburton has been engaging in massive overcharging and wasteful practices under this no-bid contract, Dick Cheney has continued to receive compensation from his former company." After listing some instances of Halliburton overcharging alleged by Pentagon auditors, Mr. Kerry asserted: "While Dick Cheney claims that he has gotten rid of all of his financial interests in Halliburton, he's actually received $2 million in bonuses and deferred compensation from his former company since taking office in 2001. And the independent Congressional Research Service found that under federal ethics law, Dick Cheney did have a lingering financial interest in Halliburton." THE FACTS Halliburton's business with the military has grown substantially since Mr. Bush and Mr. Cheney took office. The company rose to seventh-largest military contractor in 2003 from 22nd-largest in 2000. The contracts did not prove to be as profitable as executives had hoped, however, and accusations of political favoritism led to a public relations nightmare. On Thursday, Halliburton said it was considering selling its subsidiary that holds the contracts in Iraq. Mr. Cheney's financial disclosure statements from 2001, 2002 and 2003 show that since becoming vice president-elect, he has received $1,997,525 from the company: $1,451,398 in a bonus deferred from 1999, the rest in deferred salary. He also holds options to buy Halliburton stock. Mr. Cheney's critics concede that there is no concrete evidence that he has pulled any strings on Halliburton's behalf. But he has refused to answer a request from Democrats in Congress that he provide an accounting of any communications he and his staff have had with Halliburton or actions they have taken on Halliburton contracts.


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Halliburton, basically an oil services and engineering company, won a large contract in competitive bidding in 2001 to provide food, housing, fuel and other logistical support for troops in the Middle East. That contract has so far been worth about $5 billion. Pentagon auditors have accused the company of overcharging for food, fuel and other services. For a time the Army considered withholding payments to the company until the billing dispute was resolved, but decided last month to continue reimbursements in full. In March 2003, Kellogg Brown & Root, Halliburton's construction and engineering subsidiary, received from the Pentagon what is called a sole-source contract, meaning it was awarded without bidding, to restore and operate Iraqi oil wells. The contract, which was classified when it was awarded just before the invasion of Iraq, could be worth as much as $7 billion. Halliburton contracts awarded in the last six months have been won in competitive bidding. But the administration has said it would have been impractical to have open bidding on the oil wells contract since Halliburton already had an established position in Iraq and since making the contract public before the invasion would have compromised this country's war plans. The nonpartisan investigative Government Accountability Office, formerly the General Accounting Office, agreed with the administration's assessment. It reported in June that the Halliburton subsidiary had been the only company "in a position to provide the services within the required time." David M. Walker, who as comptroller general is chief of the G.A.O., told a House committee that the no-bid contract was justified "given the war in Iraq and the urgent need for reconstruction efforts." On the question of Mr. Cheney's income from Halliburton, officials of the Bush-Cheney campaign said that before entering office in 2001, Mr. Cheney bought an insurance policy that guaranteed a fixed amount of deferred payments from Halliburton each year for five years so that the payments would not depend on the company's fortunes. The officials also said he had promised to donate to charity any after-tax profits he made from exercising his stock options. These steps are not unusual for corporate executives who enter government. In response to an inquiry from Senator Frank R. Lautenberg, Democrat of New Jersey, the nonpartisan Congressional Research Service reported last year that an official's deferred salary and stock options could amount to "a continuing financial interest" in the company involved. The report did not mention Mr. Cheney by name or say that such an arrangement was improper. To avoid conflict of interest, the service said, any official with a continuing interest in a company should include the relationship in public financial disclosure statements, a step Mr. Cheney has taken.




This post was edited on 9/22/22 at 3:45 pm
Posted by Bayoutigre
29.9N 92.1W
Member since Feb 2007
5900 posts
Posted on 9/22/22 at 3:39 pm to
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And one of those would be my uncle, one of the most anti-government people I know, who personally witnessed American Flight 77 fly into the Pentagon while on his way to work that morning.
Posted by Bayoutigre
29.9N 92.1W
Member since Feb 2007
5900 posts
Posted on 9/22/22 at 3:41 pm to
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And one of those would be my uncle, one of the most anti-government people I know, who personally witnessed American Flight 77 fly into the Pentagon while on his way to work that morning.

Your uncle may have seen a low flying plane,but he didn`t see it hit the Pentagon
Posted by ThatTahoeOverThere
Member since Nov 2021
4656 posts
Posted on 9/22/22 at 3:43 pm to
It was a gas station
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
112624 posts
Posted on 9/22/22 at 3:44 pm to
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Your uncle may have seen a low flying plane,but he didn`t see it hit the Pentagon

Funny how you automatically believed the person when it fit your narrative then dismissed the person's account that didn't.


Also, how do you then describe the flight recorded data an air traffic control regarding the flight of the plane that hit the Pentagon?
Posted by RollTide1987
Augusta, GA
Member since Nov 2009
69683 posts
Posted on 9/22/22 at 4:16 pm to
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Your uncle may have seen a low flying plane,but he didn`t see it hit the Pentagon


He was looking right at it.

He saw the plane and the explosion. He was in therapy for over a year.
This post was edited on 9/22/22 at 4:17 pm
Posted by ThatTahoeOverThere
Member since Nov 2021
4656 posts
Posted on 9/22/22 at 4:20 pm to
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He was in therapy for over a year.


He sounds crazy. Not a creditable witness IMO
Posted by LookSquirrel
Old Millville
Member since Oct 2019
7654 posts
Posted on 9/22/22 at 4:29 pm to
Maybe he got the same treatment as eye witness April Gallop.

Gallop gives clues about how the Crime Syndicate controls the process. She said that while she was in the hospital, men in suits visited her more than once.


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“They never identified themselves or even said which agency they worked for. But I know they were not newsmen because I learned that the Pentagon told news reporters not to cover survivors’ stories or they would not get any more stories out of there. The men who visited all said they couldn’t tell me what to say, they only wanted to make suggestions. But then they told me what to do, which was to take the (Victim Compensation Fund) money and shut up. They also kept insisting that a plane hit the building. They repeated this over and over. But I was there and I never saw a plane or even debris from a plane. I figure the plane story is there to brainwash people.”


I'd say they have been pretty effective.
Posted by LSU82BILL
Fort Lauderdale, FL
Member since Sep 2006
10852 posts
Posted on 9/22/22 at 4:35 pm to
Amazing how they knew to aim that SCUD missle where the Pentagon stored all their American Airlines fuselage debris.
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