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re: A genetic defect in white people.
Posted on 10/1/20 at 7:50 am to BamaTide1958
Posted on 10/1/20 at 7:50 am to BamaTide1958
quote:"Genetic defect" has nothing to do with it.
There is an evil ideology that exists in the Western world that basically is the core of left wing thinking. It is the ideology that white western people must hate themselves and feel guilt and even inferiority towards others. Think hard about this. What other race has this self hate guilt problem? None!
Japan is a rich powerful country but those people do not hate themselves for being East Asian. They do not feel deep guilt over being an affluent technically superior country. Again these attitudes are unique to whites only!
American Whites (as a group) treated American Blacks (as a group) VERY badly, for a VERY long time. Agree or disagree, but a certain percentage of the population feels that American Whites "owe" something to American Blacks ... NOT because Whites should "hate themselves" but simply as a form of redress for perceived wrongs in the past. I happen to disagree, but that is not particularly-relevant to the silly-arsed premise of the OP.
Japan? Do you KNOW any Japanese? Because your post makes me think that the answer is a resounding "no." The VAST majority of the Japanese harbor feelings of collective guilt for the way that their country treated neighboring countries in the first half of the 20th Century, and they act accordingly (though this is lessening with each generation). The same is true for Germans, to a greater extent in some ways.
A (weak?) argument can even be made that the collective "wrongs" committed by American Whites against American Blacks are MORE deserving of "guilt," because those actions (in the form of Jim Crow) are more-recent than the German and Japanese aggression of the first half of the last century and MORE people alive today are directly responsible for it or at least directly benefited by it.
Again, I think it is a weak argument, and we have taken SIGNIFICANT steps (e.g. the Civil Rights legislation) to correct those wrongs. But it is just silly to frame the discussion in terms so clearly-erroneous.
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Posted on 10/1/20 at 7:59 am to awestruck
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Nope... the problem is any one group thinking too highly of themselves.
So what’s your take on “Gods chosen people”???
Posted on 10/1/20 at 8:00 am to AggieHank86
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Agree or disagree, but a certain percentage of the population feels that American Whites "owe" something to American Blacks ... NOT because Whites should "hate themselves" but simply as a form of redress for perceived wrongs in the past.
I would ask them this: "As someone born in the mid-1980s, why is that my responsibility?"
Posted on 10/1/20 at 8:19 am to BamaTide1958
I think it may have something to do with Christianity, and the turn the other cheek ethos.
Posted on 10/1/20 at 8:21 am to BamaTide1958
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genetic defect in white people.
It is nurture, not nature.
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Japan is a rich powerful country but those people do not hate themselves for being East Asian. They do not feel deep guilt over being an affluent technically superior country.
You're conflating issues of race (biology-skin color) and issues of ethnicity (cultural identification and expression - which can be intertwined with one's race). Both concepts are social constructs, so all of our ideas, beliefs, and biases (even guilt from our own group identity) are purely social constructs.
Your Japanese example has more to do with ethnicity. And, frankly, a poor example due to the extreme ethnic homogeny and worldview of the larger East Asian ethnic groups that is not apples to apples. There is extreme racism and issues with injustice in these areas due to cultural concepts and beliefs of ethnic superiority. That is what prevents their "Japanese" guilt and also what keeps Korea, China, Vietnam, Japan and many other East Asian countries at odds with each other and drives cultural clashes, tension and ethnic divide along national borders.
In states where there is less homogeny, there is more likely to see either turmoil with cultural infighting or concession by the majority ethnic group as they become more empathetic and accepting of other groups.
It's not a biological issue you are highlighting; it is a social studies class.
Posted on 10/1/20 at 8:21 am to BamaTide1958
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There is an evil ideology that exists in the Western world that basically is the core of left wing thinking. It is the ideology that white western people must hate themselves and feel guilt and even inferiority towards others.
It's been fostered on us and fomented by a certain group of fellow whites whom we're not allowed to name or talk about.
Posted on 10/1/20 at 8:25 am to Wally Sparks
quote:quote:I would ask them this: "As someone born in the mid-1980s, why is that my responsibility?"
Agree or disagree, but a certain percentage of the population feels that American Whites "owe" something to American Blacks ... NOT because Whites should "hate themselves" but simply as a form of redress for perceived wrongs in the past.
As I said, I disagree with the premise.
That does not mean that I cannot seek to UNDERSTAND the ACTUAL premise, rather than building straw men.
Posted on 10/1/20 at 8:32 am to BamaTide1958
One could posit the idea that having a 'conscience', would be counter productive to the Natural Law of self survival of the fittest. Religion (Jesus' Gospel) of self sacrifice for gain in the (next) life (Heaven) is the epitome of this Narrative.
Straight up...IMO...Europeans ("Whites") have this 'problem' to a degree more than any other Genetic Group. I believe they are "God's chosen", because of the Love they manifest as a Group. They manifest the emotion of Love, and even form the Founding Document of the most powerful (White) Nation ever to exist (in known history), on the basis of a God who claims to BE, essentially Love. With Jesus backing that claim up re His Gospel.
End Time Prophecy predicts that this Group (God's Chosen) will be persecuted, reviled and enslaved by some form of 'World Government'/Idea; but that hideous venture won't last long (3 1/2 years?). Read John Fonte's Essay on "Transnational Progressivism", if you want to understand the Ideological basis for this Cultural/Political Scenario. It is a perfect description of the current dynamic, and Leftist hegemony.
This next election will bring an open clash between the Transnational Progressive Left and the Constitutional Principled Right (God-given Individual Rights)...to the Street. The Left is going to crash this election via mail in ballot fraud, scream 'Dictator'...and either have Trump (Constitutional Principle) stand down and "transfer power"...or create civil anarchy.
From there, it goes to the John Mark Speaks/"why the Right will win the coming Civil War" scenario. God only knows where that ends up. A lot of truly pissed off people for sure; having suffered great pain and irreparable loss in said 'civil war'.
Strap in. Lord have mercy.
Straight up...IMO...Europeans ("Whites") have this 'problem' to a degree more than any other Genetic Group. I believe they are "God's chosen", because of the Love they manifest as a Group. They manifest the emotion of Love, and even form the Founding Document of the most powerful (White) Nation ever to exist (in known history), on the basis of a God who claims to BE, essentially Love. With Jesus backing that claim up re His Gospel.
End Time Prophecy predicts that this Group (God's Chosen) will be persecuted, reviled and enslaved by some form of 'World Government'/Idea; but that hideous venture won't last long (3 1/2 years?). Read John Fonte's Essay on "Transnational Progressivism", if you want to understand the Ideological basis for this Cultural/Political Scenario. It is a perfect description of the current dynamic, and Leftist hegemony.
This next election will bring an open clash between the Transnational Progressive Left and the Constitutional Principled Right (God-given Individual Rights)...to the Street. The Left is going to crash this election via mail in ballot fraud, scream 'Dictator'...and either have Trump (Constitutional Principle) stand down and "transfer power"...or create civil anarchy.
From there, it goes to the John Mark Speaks/"why the Right will win the coming Civil War" scenario. God only knows where that ends up. A lot of truly pissed off people for sure; having suffered great pain and irreparable loss in said 'civil war'.
Strap in. Lord have mercy.
Posted on 10/1/20 at 8:35 am to BamaTide1958
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Michael Moore's book "Stupid white men" where he has a chapter on how white people can save themselves by being more black.
I have no interest in his book but can’t help but wonder what he means by being more black.
Posted on 10/1/20 at 8:37 am to DougsMugs
Dougie
That was awesome.
Humble not guilty not gulible.
I like it.
Thanks man om a good start to my morning
That was awesome.
Humble not guilty not gulible.
I like it.
Thanks man om a good start to my morning
Posted on 10/1/20 at 8:37 am to BamaTide1958
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Again these attitudes are unique to white Democrats only!
Posted on 10/1/20 at 8:40 am to Gaspergou202
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You miss a prime component of white libtards.
They see themselves as the white moral elite.
The white cream floating above all that white skim milk trash.
They find this quite invigorating!
And they will happily tell you so every chance they get.
No disagreement there. they are white supremacists pretending to be elite woke.
Posted on 10/1/20 at 8:41 am to BamaTide1958
Without universities, this defect/idea/problem does not ever take hold.
I went back to school and finished a history degree three years ago and I promise that they are teaching this crap to your kids—bashing them over the head with it, actually. If I had any more than one semester of classes left I wouldn’t have bothered with the diploma. Made me swear that I would never pay a dime to a public university, nor send my children to one—at least not until a major Leftist purge took place.
I went back to school and finished a history degree three years ago and I promise that they are teaching this crap to your kids—bashing them over the head with it, actually. If I had any more than one semester of classes left I wouldn’t have bothered with the diploma. Made me swear that I would never pay a dime to a public university, nor send my children to one—at least not until a major Leftist purge took place.
Posted on 10/1/20 at 8:43 am to BamaTide1958
This is not an illness in democrats only. Mitt Romney, the Bush family and John MCCain are not democrats.
All these never Trumpers are that way because Trump's appeal is that he is not that way and that is why they hate him.
All these never Trumpers are that way because Trump's appeal is that he is not that way and that is why they hate him.
Posted on 10/1/20 at 8:49 am to BamaTide1958
Maybe that explains why white people are smarter than black people.
Posted on 10/1/20 at 9:01 am to AggieHank86
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A (weak?) argument can even be made that the collective "wrongs" committed by American Whites against American Blacks are MORE deserving of "guilt," because those actions (in the form of Jim Crow) are more-recent than the German and Japanese aggression of the first half of the last century and MORE people alive today are directly responsible for it or at least directly benefited by it.
Damn weak. The Institution of Slavery has existed for the duration of historical record; many times based on Racial/Tribal bases. The only reason Blacks didn't range out and enslave Europe, was because spears couldn't cut it; not because of superior Black morality. Think Tutsis v Hutus...for the "more recent" affirmation of Tribalism instinct.
And I LIVED and closely interacted with Blacks in the time of Jim Crow, and though it was a moral, cultural atrocity... our conscience and Founding Document, and Leaders like MLK pushed us to refine our (instinctual) belief and action. But I can bear witness that Black Men ( the ones I knew personally) who lived in that time...were extraordinarily moral and virtuous. As were their children. Forgiveness and focus on past wrongs should be subordinate to future aspirations; the 'payback' mentality of BLM and the Egalitarian Ideology of Transnational Progressivism...will make things much worse.
We'll get through this, and be better for it...but given the Tribalism card being played by the Marxist Left...it will be extraordinarily painful.
Posted on 10/1/20 at 9:07 am to BamaTide1958
quote:since all races pretty much want to be white, the answer is all other races. Furthermore, you're vastly overstating how many whites have self hatred.
. What other race has this self hate guilt problem? None!
Posted on 10/1/20 at 9:18 am to BamaTide1958
It's not a defect. It's called social conditioning. Every person of every skintone is vulnerable to it if they are targeted by it long enough.
It's why a lot of inner city black people who have always lived under Democrat rule...and have never been influenced by Republicans rule... will violently swear up and down that Republicans are why their lives are miserable and that only Democrats can save them. They will even claim that black people who don't blindly vote Democrat, aren't really black.
It's why a lot of inner city black people who have always lived under Democrat rule...and have never been influenced by Republicans rule... will violently swear up and down that Republicans are why their lives are miserable and that only Democrats can save them. They will even claim that black people who don't blindly vote Democrat, aren't really black.
Posted on 10/1/20 at 9:30 am to BamaTide1958
There are an alarming amount of genetic experts on this board who don't understand genetics.
Yeah, instead the Japanese issue formal apologies for their roles in terrible events, set up reparations for war crimes they committed and have public debates about the role of their military in war crimes. The UK did a massive amount of damage to the Indian subcontinent, for example, for a long time. I'm skeptical you'll ever see a reparations program from the UK though.
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They do not feel deep guilt over being an affluent technically superior country.
Yeah, instead the Japanese issue formal apologies for their roles in terrible events, set up reparations for war crimes they committed and have public debates about the role of their military in war crimes. The UK did a massive amount of damage to the Indian subcontinent, for example, for a long time. I'm skeptical you'll ever see a reparations program from the UK though.
This post was edited on 10/1/20 at 9:37 am
Posted on 10/1/20 at 9:32 am to crazy4lsu
It’s almost as if the media and those who run the boards of giant corporations who control our culture are pushing white guilt...must be a coincidence.
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