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re: A few interesting details on the SCOTUS rule from yesterday in scotusblog.

Posted on 5/17/25 at 11:08 am to
Posted by imjustafatkid
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Posted on 5/17/25 at 11:08 am to
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The Trump admin still has to follow the law.


And they are and always have been. You are advocating to destroy our nation.
This post was edited on 5/17/25 at 11:09 am
Posted by JimEverett
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Posted on 5/17/25 at 11:10 am to
I don't know what is worse: reporting/popular writing about science or reporting about law and judicial decisions


But both are terrible.
Posted by deltaland
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Posted on 5/17/25 at 11:10 am to
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Literally none of that is interesting in the least.


It’s important to understand the details. If I’m reading correctly ScOTUS didn’t rule Trump can’t remove them under the AEA. It sounds like the proper procedure using the AEA is to give clear notice to those the govt intends to remove so they have time to challenge their status as alien enemies. They told the administration they must do this

And they also told the lower courts to review these challenges and rule on them in an expedient manner.

So in a nutshell they told Trump admin to dot the i’s and cross the t’s and told the judges don’t drag it out forever rule and get on with it.
Posted by AUCom96
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Posted on 5/17/25 at 11:18 am to
So we have to inform lawbreakers that they are in fact lawbreakers and serve them timely notice before they are prosecuted as lawbreakers.

Thieves and murderers have to be looking to get in on this action.
Posted by GumboPot
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Posted on 5/17/25 at 11:21 am to
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The admin should have invested in expanding the immigration court system, hiring new judges, making new courts, etc. to hear more cases. We'd be a lot farther along deporting illegals had Trump followed my plan than the silliness Stephen Miller told him to try.


Would hiring more judges take appropriations from congress?

If so without going through the “Stephen Miller approach” the administration would not be able to get sufficient political capital to pass appropriations and implement your plan.
Posted by JimEverett
Member since May 2020
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Posted on 5/17/25 at 11:23 am to
They also went through hoops to claim jurisdiction - probably a response to what the government did with garcia.
They then stopped deportation of plaintiffs not named, again - probably because of the garcia case.

Those, imo, are the interesting aspects


The notice requirement was expected, i think.
Posted by IvoryBillMatt
Member since Mar 2020
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Posted on 5/17/25 at 11:41 am to
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I don't know what is worse: reporting/popular writing about science or reporting about law and judicial decisions


But both are terrible.


Amen on both accounts. For clickbait, headlines are sensationalized on both topics. Then, when you read the underlying case (law) or study (science), the substance is completely different from the headline.
Posted by Icansee4miles
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Posted on 5/17/25 at 11:48 am to
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Thieves and murders


Are the ones being prioritized for deportations that the Dims are defending, so the activist liberal judges have already let them in on it. Good thing they have legal stalwarts like our low budget trailer park divorce attorney cheering them on so they will know they are right.
Posted by deltaland
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Posted on 5/17/25 at 11:58 am to
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Republicans had a mandate, use it and change the laws


Will never break a filibuster though
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 5/17/25 at 12:27 pm to
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The glorious intent of our brilliant founders to write in our constitution a massive loophole for letting our enemies destroy the nation. Brilliant

It's not a loophole. Your scenario is absurd. I notice you left out the 2nd part.

What the hell could the AEA do in that scenario? We can't deport hundreds of thousands of people quickly, let alone 1000x that number
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 5/17/25 at 12:28 pm to
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You continue to mask your liberal opinions behind your legal larping.


So me accurately stating the status of the law is projecting "liberal opinions"?



Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 5/17/25 at 12:29 pm to
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So we have to inform lawbreakers that they are in fact lawbreakers and serve them timely notice before they are prosecuted as lawbreakers.

Thieves and murderers have to be looking to get in on this action.

Do you think that when criminals are prosecuted they aren't given lots of notice?

Let me introduce you to the concepts of an indictment and arraignment, friend.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 5/17/25 at 12:30 pm to
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Would hiring more judges take appropriations from congress?

If so without going through the “Stephen Miller approach” the administration would not be able to get sufficient political capital to pass appropriations and implement your plan.


Trump wanting a single "big, beautiful bill" is also a misstep, but I'm trying to stay on topic.
Posted by loogaroo
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Member since Dec 2005
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Posted on 5/17/25 at 12:39 pm to
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What the hell could the AEA do in that scenario? We can't deport hundreds of thousands of people quickly, let alone 1000x that number


BINGO! That's why what SCOTUS did is a national security issue.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 5/17/25 at 12:42 pm to
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BINGO! That's why what SCOTUS did is a national security issue.

What an irrelevant response

Again, the AEA couldn't process that many with any rapidity.
This post was edited on 5/17/25 at 12:43 pm
Posted by Trevaylin
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Member since Feb 2019
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Posted on 5/17/25 at 1:10 pm to
the only solution is to hold the USSC accountable for every murder by individuals who should have been deported. Sue them in the next higher jurisdiction, THE WORLD COURT , or the COURT OF PUBLIC OPINION
Posted by GRTiger
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Member since Dec 2008
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Posted on 5/17/25 at 1:12 pm to
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What the hell could the AEA do in that scenario? We can't deport hundreds of thousands of people quickly, let alone 1000x that number


Impotent, silly retort. Are you drunk?
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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451870 posts
Posted on 5/17/25 at 1:13 pm to
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the only solution is to hold the USSC accountable for every murder by individuals who should have been deported.

No, that's not the "only" solution.

Hell, that's not even an intelligent or logical solution.

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Sue them in the next higher jurisdiction, THE WORLD COURT


Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 5/17/25 at 1:14 pm to
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Impotent, silly retort.



I see you don't want to answer the question and I understand exactly why.
Posted by loogaroo
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Posted on 5/17/25 at 1:15 pm to
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Again, the AEA couldn't process that many with any rapidity.


That's the point.
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