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re: 9th Circuit Fails To Cite Actual Law In Issuing Its 29 Page Ruling

Posted on 2/10/17 at 8:10 am to
Posted by the808bass
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Posted on 2/10/17 at 8:10 am to
You don't know wtf you are talking about.
Posted by The Spleen
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Posted on 2/10/17 at 8:10 am to
I never realized we had so many constitutional scholars on this board. I feel honored just to be in y'all's presence.
Posted by the808bass
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Posted on 2/10/17 at 8:10 am to
We do realize you're a liberal dicksuck.
Posted by NC_Tigah
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Posted on 2/10/17 at 8:13 am to
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Trump could rewrite his order to focus on unvetted foreign nationals who have never visited the U.S.,
Or he could rewrite his order to focus on proven terrorists from those countries who have never visited the U.S. Or he could rewrite his order to focus on proven terrorists from those countries but only if they've killed Americans.

There are many things he could do in response to an unconstitutional court finding. Unfortunately, some of them set precedent for diminished Presidential authority. That should be a nonstarter.
Posted by oklahogjr
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Posted on 2/10/17 at 8:13 am to
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You don't know wtf you are talking about.
please explain how I'm wrong.....
Posted by PsychTiger
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Posted on 2/10/17 at 8:13 am to
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I feel honored just to be in y'all's presence.


You should be.
Posted by oklahogjr
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Posted on 2/10/17 at 8:16 am to
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Unfortunately, some of them set precedent for diminished Presidential authority. That should be a nonstarter.

Diminished presidential authority was needed just a few short months ago according to this whole board. Now that it could possibly happen it's a nonstarter?
Posted by CamdenTiger
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Posted on 2/10/17 at 8:17 am to
Well, it was clear they definitely didn't want to mention the law when they did this. The 9th circuit is just a group of leftist that were appointed because of Political reasons, and its hard not to believe that IMO....
Posted by udtiger
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Posted on 2/10/17 at 8:18 am to
Hold the phone!!!!!!!

You mean to tell me, that the 9th Circuit, the MOST reversed appellate court in the federal judiciary, which is notorious for its highly political and poorly supported legal rulings, ignored basic tenants of law and procedure and contorted itself to reach an unsupported political decision in affirming an unsupported political decision of the district court?

The HELL you say!
Posted by CorporateTiger
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Posted on 2/10/17 at 8:19 am to
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notorious for its highly political and poorly supported legal rulings,


What?
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
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Posted on 2/10/17 at 8:20 am to
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Diminished presidential authority was needed just a few short months ago according to this whole board. Now that it could possibly happen it's a nonstarter?


And if Obama had made the EO, what would the 9th's decision have been?
Posted by Maniac979
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Posted on 2/10/17 at 8:22 am to
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any decision he makes


disingenuous hyperbole
Posted by oklahogjr
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Posted on 2/10/17 at 8:22 am to
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And if Obama had made the EO, what would the 9th's decision have been?

If Obama had written the law it would have had the proper scope applied to it.
Posted by buckeye_vol
Member since Jul 2014
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Posted on 2/10/17 at 8:22 am to
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And if Obama had made the EO, what would the 9th's decision have been?
Truck question.

If it was Obama's SO, it wouldn't have been challenged in the first place.
Posted by jeff5891
Member since Aug 2011
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Posted on 2/10/17 at 8:22 am to
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9th Circuit Fails To Cite Actual Law In Issuing Its 29 Page Ruling


No they didn't. Here is summary of what they said by poster DS:

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(1) The President's powers are subject to the Constitution and no act of his can violate the Constitution, even when he invokes national security; (2) Many resident immigrants have a constitutional right to be able to reenter the country; (3) A constitutional right cannot be taken away without due process of law defined as "notice and an opportunity to respond;" (4) the Executive Order took away the rights of resident immigrants to reenter the U.S. without giving them constitutional due process of law; (5) the Executive Order is NOT entirely illegal, because not everyone banned has a constitutional right to enter the United States, but it is not the Court's job to rewrite the Executive Order to make it Constitutional... for now the stay is granted to prevent continuing violations of the Constitution.


Posted by Damone
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Posted on 2/10/17 at 8:23 am to
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It's just that the 9th and the whackaninny in Washington decided Trump is an existential threat to the country and that they therefore do have review over security decisions with respect to immigration.

Don't kid yourself. There was a reason this issue was brought in the specific venue to start. They knew the District Judge would rule the way they did, and then get 9th Circuit'd.
Posted by the808bass
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Posted on 2/10/17 at 8:24 am to
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If Obama had written the law it would have had the proper scope applied to it.


Lolzy
Posted by SoulGlo
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Posted on 2/10/17 at 8:24 am to
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Basically the 9th totally ignored the law and instead pulled shite out of their arse


Lib "judges" pulling shite out of their asses? No fricking waaay.
Posted by the808bass
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Posted on 2/10/17 at 8:25 am to
That's why Robart made his decision worldwide.
Posted by Damone
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Posted on 2/10/17 at 8:25 am to
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If Obama had written the law it would have had the proper scope applied to it.

Kinda like that law he wrote on droning American citizens without due process?
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