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re: 9/11 Documentary. More questions than answers.
Posted on 9/14/21 at 11:46 am to monstranceclock76
Posted on 9/14/21 at 11:46 am to monstranceclock76
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7 is the absolute smoking gun. The whole thing was a farce.
It’s really isn’t. I guess you also want to dismiss those two clearly visible airplanes flying into world trade centers 1 & 2?
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Posted on 9/14/21 at 11:50 am to SouthEasternKaiju
Anyone remember the issue of insider trading and people who made a lot of money with trades involving the airlines involved just before 9/11? These were supposedly investigated and those parties were deemed innocent of any wrongdoing because---- 'they had no connection to Al Qaeda". That's where the investigation ended...you see the problem with that?? The assumption was made that Al Qaeda did it therefore all the trading was "not connected to the crime"
The biggest financial windfall they were never able to trace and the money was not collected. Somebody chickened out I guess.
Posted on 9/14/21 at 11:53 am to SouthEasternKaiju
so by being stoic and sitting there in front of a roomful of kids, he is conceivably at the moment putting those kids in harm’s way because the country was under terrorist attacks on multiple fronts. At that moment, it is pretty safe to say that he should have been considered a target as well and for everyone’s safety moved the POTUS out of an undecured school building. remember the video is him being told about the SECOND plane, he was told about the first plane before he got to the school.
Posted on 9/14/21 at 11:55 am to supatigah
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remember the video is him being told about the SECOND plane, he was told about the first plane before he got to the school.
He was briefed that the first plane was a small commuter plane
Posted on 9/14/21 at 11:56 am to jamboybarry
correct
Posted on 9/14/21 at 11:56 am to LittleRockDoc
quote:Do you understand the basic architecture of the WTC towers?
2 There were explosions seen and heard below the area of impact prior to collapse. Plus the jet fuel would burn out quickly and would not come close to melting the steel.
They were virtually empty "boxes" surrounding a central elevator shaft core. All of the weight/stress was supported mainly by the exoskelton with a small amount carried by the elevator shaft.
Look where the planes hit and went through. They took out well over 50% of that exoskelton and also the elevator shaft.
Less than half of the load bearing structure of the buildings was left. It is honestly a miracle that they stood as long as they did. The weight of the floors above eventually compromised what little of the load bearing structure remained, and they began to pancake. By the time the top floors had started falling, when they reached the areas below the impact, the resulting force (mass x acceleration due to gravity) was too much for for the structure to withstand, and it began to cascade on down.
Posted on 9/14/21 at 11:59 am to supatigah
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correct
That distinction basically nullifies your proposition that he was sitting there knowingly putting those children and staff in harm’s way
Posted on 9/14/21 at 12:00 pm to Pdubntrub
quote:I know all the usual dumb frick libtard talking points when I see them, and I will call them out when I do. Sorry if that makes your pussy ache.
When someone starts throwing insults it's a sure sign they don't know what they're talking about
Posted on 9/14/21 at 12:01 pm to Roberteaux
Yeah I forgot. They flew some Cessnas in Florida.
The multiple firefighters and witnesses who heard explosions on floors due to "jet fuel". The argument was originally the steel melted and then it changed to weaken steel which caused it to buckle and break. How can you explain the absolute free fall?
Name the building.
Just watch the documentary. Good listen for a long trip.
The multiple firefighters and witnesses who heard explosions on floors due to "jet fuel". The argument was originally the steel melted and then it changed to weaken steel which caused it to buckle and break. How can you explain the absolute free fall?
Name the building.
Just watch the documentary. Good listen for a long trip.
Posted on 9/14/21 at 12:03 pm to PJinAtl
the WTC 1 was hit 7 floors from the top, hit first, fell second
the WTC 2 was hit 22 floors from the top, hit second, fell first
engineers calculated that when the WTC1 collapsed, the levels that caused the failures were ~38,000 tons. the levels that caused the WTC2 failures were ~112,000 tons
taking out the elevators shafts like a jenga tower in both buiildings and then the fires, its a wonder they stayed up as long as they did with the exoskeleton design
I saw a doc that said there were people riding the elevators when the planes hit that got trapped and burned to death by jet fuel in the elevators. unreal
the WTC 2 was hit 22 floors from the top, hit second, fell first
engineers calculated that when the WTC1 collapsed, the levels that caused the failures were ~38,000 tons. the levels that caused the WTC2 failures were ~112,000 tons
taking out the elevators shafts like a jenga tower in both buiildings and then the fires, its a wonder they stayed up as long as they did with the exoskeleton design
I saw a doc that said there were people riding the elevators when the planes hit that got trapped and burned to death by jet fuel in the elevators. unreal
Posted on 9/14/21 at 12:06 pm to jamboybarry
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That distinction basically nullifies your proposition that he was sitting there knowingly putting those children and staff in harm’s way
the discussion is about his reaction after he was told about the second plane hitting the second tower
can you read?
This post was edited on 9/14/21 at 12:07 pm
Posted on 9/14/21 at 12:06 pm to LittleRockDoc
quote:A 20 second read...
5 hours long
WTC 7 collapsing is comical. If that isn't true then what else isn't?
1. Falling debris from WTC 1 started fires on 10 floors in WTC 7.
2. A break in the city water main from the collapse of WTC 1 & WTC 2 disabled sprinklers in the lower half of WTC 7, allowing those floors to burn for 7 hours.
3. Heat from fires expanded long support beams, causing connections and floors to fail.
4. Floors failing caused a major support column to buckle.
5. The buckled column caused additional collapsed floors and falling debris that removed support from adjacent interior columns.
6. A chain reaction then caused other interior columns to fail in quick succession, causing the outside shell of the building to fail.
This post was edited on 9/14/21 at 12:09 pm
Posted on 9/14/21 at 12:07 pm to jamboybarry
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correct
That distinction basically nullifies your proposition that he was sitting there knowingly putting those children and staff in harm’s way
I don't agree with supa with regard to Bush's reaction (I really think he was sitting there trying to process what was going on before making any decisions, with a legitimate consideration of not wanting to look like he was panicking), but whether the FIRST plane was a cessna or a 757 seems pretty immaterial once it's learned there's a SECOND plane that hit the towers.
Posted on 9/14/21 at 12:19 pm to Y.A. Tittle
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I really think he was sitting there trying to process what was going on before making any decisions, with a legitimate consideration of not wanting to look like he was panicking)
I get all of that, but the organic look on his face IMHO wasnt shock from confusion or surprise, it was more like incredulous from disbelief. I am still amazed that the POTUS security element of this didnt immediately kick in and get him out of there for everyone’s safety
I dont really think GWB had any details of any plot, he is probably the last person globalist bad guys would want briefed is a weakminded person like GWB
Posted on 9/14/21 at 12:28 pm to supatigah
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I dont really think GWB had any details of any plot, he is probably the last person globalist bad guys would want briefed is a weakminded person like GWB
Cheney and Daddy Bush were really running things. They shipped W off to Sarasota to read to kids so Cheney could be in charge in DC . My humble opinion after reading tons of books by various authors with various viewpoints.
Posted on 9/14/21 at 12:28 pm to supatigah
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for everyone’s safety
He was in some random classroom in Florida. He knew at that moment that two planes had hit in lower Manhattan (Pentagon strike hadn't occurred yet) and nothing else. I think you're overplaying the idea that an attack on wherever the president was located at that moment was an immediate imminent obvious consideration.
In hindsight, should it have been? Sure, I suppose. I just don't find his (and the SS) reaction obviously wrong or off at that very moment -- to stay sort of measured and not obviously panicked. I've always taken issue with people who point to it as particularly meaningful in some regard.
Posted on 9/14/21 at 12:29 pm to Damone
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Read up on Norman Minetta's testimony to the 9/11 Commission and what they left out of the official report.
Mineta's testimony is the smoking gun. He was in the bunker in DC with Cheney. Cheney was getting briefed the entire time, and actually ordered the stand-down order.
The US government absolutely, 100 percent, had a hand in the orchestration of 9/11.
Posted on 9/14/21 at 12:31 pm to RoyalAir
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actually ordered the stand-down order.
What's this?
Posted on 9/14/21 at 12:44 pm to supatigah
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what struck me about GWB’s reaction is not confusion or surprise, he was more like incredulous. It looks like he is processing that “they really did it” not who or what or why or how did “they” do it.
it is a strange reaction for someone if they knew nothing about any of it and just found out organically what had just happened.
Also there was no sense of urgency from GWB, like he knew there was no need for urgency for safety for himself. The longer he sat there, the longer those kids were in danger, theoretically
Man I think y'all are over thinking this. How long did he sit there after the second plane hit?
Eta - 8 minutes
I'll also add, there are hundreds of eye witnesses who saw the plane hit the Pentagon. Are they "in on it"?
This post was edited on 9/14/21 at 12:50 pm
Posted on 9/14/21 at 12:50 pm to LittleRockDoc
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WTC 7 collapsing is comical.
What’s comical is you believe this is an inside job.
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