re: 55 years ago our "greatest ally" intentionally attacked a US ship and murdered 34Americans

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I mean, we told them we wouldn't be there. We told them that we weren't there.

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55 years later, and you’re lying about it?

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No, because absolutely no one thinks that. They wanted American political neutrality to end, and saw their chance.

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And killing Americans was going to bring the US in on Israel's side? Like we were just never going to figure out who killed these sailors? I haven't read up on it in a while, but didn't they pretty much immediately acknowledge that they had done it?

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Oh man, the united states has NEVER, accidentally killed people.


NEVER EVER EVER

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You really are dumb.

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55 years later, and you’re lying about it?

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During the Six-Day War between Israel and several Arab nations, the United States of America maintained a neutral country status.[11] Several days before the war began, the USS Liberty was ordered to proceed to the eastern Mediterranean area to perform a signals intelligence collection mission in international waters near the north coast of Sinai, Egypt.[12] After the war erupted, due to concerns about its safety as it approached its patrol area, several messages were sent to Liberty to increase its allowable closest point of approach (CPA) to Egypt's and Israel's coasts from 12.5 and 6.5 nautical miles (14.4 and 7.5 mi; 23.2 and 12.0 km), respectively, to 20 and 15 nautical miles (23 and 17 mi; 37 and 28 km), and then later to 100 nautical miles (120 mi; 190 km) for both countries.[13] Unfortunately, due to ineffective message handling and routing, these messages were not received until after the attack.[13]

According to Israeli sources, at the start of the war on 5 June, General Yitzhak Rabin, Israeli Air Force (IAF) chief of staff informed Commander Ernest Carl Castle, the American naval attaché in Tel Aviv, that Israel would defend its coast with every means at its disposal, including sinking unidentified ships. He asked the U.S. to keep its ships away from Israel's shore or at least inform Israel of their exact positions.[14][a]

American sources said that no inquiry about ships in the area was made until after the attack on Liberty. In a message sent from U.S. Secretary of State Dean Rusk to U.S. Ambassador Walworth Barbour in Tel Aviv, Israel, Rusk asked for "urgent confirmation" of Israel's statement. Barbour responded: "No request for info on U.S. ships operating off Sinai was made until after Liberty incident." Further, Barbour stated: "Had Israelis made such an inquiry it would have been forwarded immediately to the chief of naval operations and other high naval commands and repeated to dept [Department of State]."[15]

With the outbreak of war, Captain William L. McGonagle of Liberty immediately asked Vice Admiral William I. Martin at the United States Sixth Fleet headquarters to send a destroyer to accompany Liberty and serve as its armed escort and as an auxiliary communications center. The following day, Admiral Martin replied: "Liberty is a clearly marked United States ship in international waters, not a participant in the conflict and not a reasonable subject for attack by any nation. Request denied."[16] He promised, however, that in the unlikely event of an inadvertent attack, jet fighters from the Sixth Fleet would be overhead in ten minutes.

Meanwhile at the United Nations on 6 June, U.S. Ambassador Arthur Goldberg told the Security Council that vessels of the Sixth Fleet were several hundred miles from the conflict, in response to Egyptian complaints that the United States was supporting Israel in the conflict.[13] When this statement was made, it was in fact true; Liberty, now assigned to the Sixth Fleet, was in the central Mediterranean Sea, passing between Libya and Crete.[17] It would ultimately steam to about 13 nmi (15 mi; 24 km) north of the Sinai Peninsula.[18]

On the night of 7 June Washington time, early morning on 8 June, 01:10Z or 3:10 am local time, the Pentagon issued an order to Sixth Fleet headquarters to tell Liberty to come no closer than 100 nautical miles (120 mi; 190 km) to Israel, Syria, or the Sinai coast (Oren, p. 263).[19]:?5,?58 (Exhibit N)? According to the Naval Court of Inquiry[20]:?23 ff,?111 ff? and the National Security Agency official history,[21] the order to withdraw was not sent on the radio frequency that Liberty monitored for her orders until 15:25 Zulu, several hours after the attack, due to a long series of administrative and message routing problems. The Navy said a large volume of unrelated high-precedence traffic, including intelligence intercepts related to the conflict, were being handled at the time; and that this combined with a shortage of qualified radiomen contributed to the delayed transmission of the withdrawal message.

So, 6th Fleet was hundreds of miles away, but apparently Liberty was full speed ahead to within 13 nautical miles. Then no communications from Israel, but the exact message to stay away 100 miles was sent at 3 in the morning. Why?

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The Israel-first cucks...

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They wanted American political neutrality to end, and saw their chance.

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Another plausible explanation put forth is that the Israelis feared the Liberty had been surveilling Israel’s war communiques and had captured signal intelligence about Israeli atrocities committed against Palestinian civilians and summary executions of Egyptian POWs for alleged war crimes.

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Playing the victim 55 years later, when we obviously bear some responsibility for what happened, is not a good look in my opinion.

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You people

First it’s, it was a tragic mistake, then it’s, well, sure we did it, but it’s your fault, you made us do it, and then finally, with a sneer, yeah, we did it, and what are you going to do about it?

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this whole ordeal sounds like a giant clusterfrick on both the American side

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You’re being both sleazy and disingenuous.

I see the anti-Israeli goons are out in force today.

So now you tell me the U.S.Liberty was monitoring the fighting between Israel and Egypt during the Six-Day War. So maybe Israel intercepted messages which indicated the U.S.Liberty was providing intelligence to Egypt on Israeli troop movements.

I'll say it. America is not Israel's friend and hasn't been for a long time. More so now that Obama's pals have infiltrated our CIA and Pentagon intelligence gathering assets.

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I see the anti-Israeli goons are out in force today.

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34 dead Americans, and yet the greater crime to you is pointing out that Israel is responsible for it. Y'all are sick.