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re: 50% Tariffs on EU delayed
Posted on 5/27/25 at 11:15 am to I20goon
Posted on 5/27/25 at 11:15 am to I20goon
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where are the numbers proving that the tariffs are going to drive inflation through the roof?
Its not just the tariffs, its the idiotic management of his tariffs that have everyone on edge.
He's fricking over so many businesses right now who cant properly plan because the Orange one has an ego problem.
The man needs to shite or get off the pot.
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Posted on 5/27/25 at 11:28 am to RogerTheShrubber
quote:which we should see in the numbers.
Its not just the tariffs, its the idiotic management of his tariffs that have everyone on edge.
He's fricking over so many businesses right now who cant properly plan because the Orange one has an ego problem.
Where are the numbers?
I'm open to somebody showing them to me and changing my mind. But yet, what you and "experts" are saying will happen(or is it did happen? or is it is happening? - that changes more than Trump's strategies) but show me the numbers.
What you say did (or is it will? or is?) happen should be in the numbers. Not 'experts' opinions. We've had enough of experts and lawyers/lawmakers and those that give them oxygen.
Posted on 5/27/25 at 11:48 am to I20goon
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which we should see in the numbers.
You already have.
The markets dropped, and when Trump folded they picked back up
Posted on 5/27/25 at 12:07 pm to RogerTheShrubber
quote:ahhh, the markets. A reflection of more experts speculation... because that's what the markets are, speculative.
You already have.
The markets dropped, and when Trump folded they picked back up
Anything else? Any other numbers out there that might have contradicted what the experts said was going to happen (including the markets)?
The market data is all we have, and none other, one way or the other, since April 2nd 2025?
Posted on 5/27/25 at 12:09 pm to I20goon
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A reflection of more experts speculation
Yes, due to the retarded nature of Trumps handling of the issue.
Donny wants to be a hero, not an actual leader.
When Trump backed off, the markets rebounded. His narcissism is expensive.
Posted on 5/27/25 at 12:11 pm to Augustus516
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50% Tariffs on EU delayed
Good move. Trump was beginning to look anti-Muslim.
Posted on 5/27/25 at 12:33 pm to RogerTheShrubber
quote:ok, we'll stick with your evident theory that the markets are both the only data available AND the only relevant indicator of the economy:
Yes, due to the retarded nature of Trumps handling of the issue.
Donny wants to be a hero, not an actual leader.
When Trump backed off, the markets rebounded. His narcissism is expensive.
On April 2nd, 2025 the S&P was a 5983
Today: 5915 (-1.15%, +11.44% YoY)
On April 2nd, 2025 the DJIA was 44,839
Today: 42,253 (-6.21%, +8.77% YoY)
So, yeah.... assuming speculative markets are the ONLY number to pay attention to (not CPI, PPI, jobs, wages, LPR, etc) I still don't see the problem in the numbers. I only see a buying opportunity, and a small window of opportunity at that.
Posted on 5/27/25 at 12:46 pm to I20goon
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that the markets are both the only data availabl
At the time, absolutely
MAGA doesnt even have a congruent outcome for the tariffs. We're just throwing out random numbers for the same of "negotiations." You cant run a large economy on that.
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I only see a buying opportunity,
Only because Trump backed off, if not the market would still be sluggish.
Your "buying opportunity" came only because either...
1) The rollout was retarded and businesses realize it
2) Trump pushed insider trading. Its almost looking like this.
Those are the only two possibilities here.
This post was edited on 5/27/25 at 12:49 pm
Posted on 5/27/25 at 12:51 pm to RogerTheShrubber
And the roll backs in tariffs are because of pressure from the bond market
Posted on 5/27/25 at 12:58 pm to Powerman
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And the roll backs in tariffs are because of pressure from the bond market
Yep. The market slapped Donny in the face, despite many warnings from smarter people.
A few weeks ago we were being told this "setback" was necessary, now they pretend it never really happened.
Posted on 5/27/25 at 2:10 pm to Bunk Moreland
It’s called negotiation commie
Posted on 5/27/25 at 2:21 pm to I20goon
quote:If it's numbers you want-saw this today. Yahoo Finance
President Trump's tariffs continued to be felt by importers in May with a measure of government receipts for "Customs and Certain Excise Taxes" already topping $22.3 billion this month, according to Treasury Department data.
The monthly total is likely to rise only slightly in the coming days, with importers often depositing their tariff duties largely in a single day. A massive deposit of more than $16.5 billion appeared in government coffers on May 22.
Posted on 5/27/25 at 2:27 pm to Taxing Authority
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I really dont understand some on this board. When you have a trade deficit, the other entry is cash. When trillions of cash keep leaving the country it shows up as debt, or selling of assets, both of which are glaringly evident.
Nope.You’ve neglected to account for the goods purchased, both in nominal and opportunity values. We do not have to pay off the trade deficit like a loan.
Okay I want your marbles and I have widgets so we trade. Soon I want more marbles and I dont have enough widgets, so I have to give you cash to make up the difference. Soon I dont have the cash so I start selling off my land or other businesses to keep giving you the cash.
And "opportunity values" what the heck is that a name for a unicorn?
Posted on 5/27/25 at 2:29 pm to jonnyanony
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I just wish he had laser focused on China instead of the other 180+ countries. The whole initiative seems scattershot.
As soon as the tariffs hit chini, their trade with asian countries skyrocketed. Did they suddenly pick up customers.....or are they transhipping cause we are keeping a close eye on their favorite transhipping whore Canada?
Posted on 5/27/25 at 2:33 pm to I20goon
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When a Norwegian oil rigging sitting off Venice can't by a standard electric motor and is required to source from a EU country or Canada, then they've joined the ranks of China.
Good point and a nuance missed on most who talk about tariffs alone.
Bissent brought up this point in an interview. You have country A that says they have no barriers. But they have a safety measure in place where no tractor can be imported that cant stop within say 50 feet. Now their own tractors cant stop within 200 feet and ironically a John Deere tractor stops in 51 feet........hmmm.
Posted on 5/27/25 at 2:43 pm to trinidadtiger
Many of the European countries want to deal, the hold up is the eu itself trying to herd 27 cats in the same direction.
I think Trump may break the eu with this, or at least put steps in motion. Even liberal AI says the following:
They will deal, they have no choice.
I think Trump may break the eu with this, or at least put steps in motion. Even liberal AI says the following:
quote:
The EU is facing a complex mix of economic, political, and social challenges, with some observers suggesting it's in a state of crisis. These challenges include economic stagnation, political instability, and concerns about the EU's democratic legitimacy.
They will deal, they have no choice.
Posted on 5/27/25 at 2:47 pm to Sweep Da Leg
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It’s called negotiation commie
You folks have been conditioned to call everything thats not working "negotiations," and its clear you're deflecting.
There is no comprehensive plan. Trump gains satisfaction from being in charge of "negotiations" which will never ever end.
Posted on 5/28/25 at 12:51 am to AndyCBR
His entire game is being the OPPOSITE OF CONSISTENT.
His “Art of the Deal” foundation is to always keep them on their toes! Always SWING FOR A GRAND SLAM & at the very least. Take the walk or bunt.
He’s not on the take, non-corruptible by DC’s standards. And they don’t know now to handle the Orange Gorilla in the room.
His “Art of the Deal” foundation is to always keep them on their toes! Always SWING FOR A GRAND SLAM & at the very least. Take the walk or bunt.
He’s not on the take, non-corruptible by DC’s standards. And they don’t know now to handle the Orange Gorilla in the room.
Posted on 5/28/25 at 2:52 am to Bunk Moreland
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Why is Trump being such a pussy?
This coming from a guy who would let someone murder his family if they're using their own child as a shield?
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