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re: 4Chan breaks the "Gamestop Crisis" down for you, as only they can

Posted on 1/28/21 at 10:58 am to
Posted by BiteMe2020
Texas
Member since Nov 2020
7284 posts
Posted on 1/28/21 at 10:58 am to
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i didn't vote for Trump, bubba. too Democrat for me


You were whining about how badly millennials (not you in particular) were affected by the credit crisis, lol.

Which, besides being debatable, is ironic considering they DID vote for Biden.

Presumably because they have student loan debt and think someone else should pay for it.

Maybe talk to your friends and educate them.

This post was edited on 1/28/21 at 10:59 am
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 1/28/21 at 10:58 am to
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false statements are not required


yes they are or you must be doing somehting other than talking about a stock. Posting you like a stock or explaining why you like something is not illegal under any statue.

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if this was true, as an absolute, insider information could not be used to prosecute people. that's "freedom of speech" too


insider trading only applies if you receive a tip from someone on the inside a company.

If i go to you and say i heard such and such company is going to win a huge government contract and I am just a joe blow on the street and that company wins and the stock goes crazy.....well you are not going to be charged with insider trading.

In the case of gamestock, the companies took such a large position on the short that they were required to file a publically availble SEC filing. It was discovered as it is public knowledge and the link was posted with an explantation.

That is not insider trading, it was public knowledge. You must use non public knowledge to fall under that realm.

After that is was and has been post about like the stock or explanations on why they like it.

Now some on twitter screaming to go buy a certain stock.....well they might get popped. You are right about saying go buy such and such stock being technically illegal. Good luck getting a conviction though, but it wont matter in the end as we discussed.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
466724 posts
Posted on 1/28/21 at 11:04 am to
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That is not insider trading

i didn't say it was. i said that insider trading shows that "free speech" is not absolute, especially with securities

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Posting you like a stock or explaining why you like something is not illegal under any statue.

not generally, but if your post about it also says something like "if we all buy it, the price will go up and their shorts will become expensive" probably is
Posted by BiteMe2020
Texas
Member since Nov 2020
7284 posts
Posted on 1/28/21 at 11:07 am to
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not generally, but if your post about it also says something like "if we all buy it, the price will go up and their shorts will become expensive" probably is


BS. Not illegal in the slightest.

And your earlier case wasn't even close, lol.

If you are a lawyer, and not larping as one, you suck at it.
This post was edited on 1/28/21 at 11:09 am
Posted by blueboy
Member since Apr 2006
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Posted on 1/28/21 at 11:12 am to
Posted by WDE24
Member since Oct 2010
54838 posts
Posted on 1/28/21 at 11:12 am to
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for the purpose of inducing the purchase or sale of such security by others.
Their transactions aren’t for the purpose of inducing the purchase or sale by others. Their transactions are designed to take advantage of the market conditions personally and they are sharing that information openly and freely for anyone that wants to do the same.
Posted by Pecker
Rocky Top
Member since May 2015
16674 posts
Posted on 1/28/21 at 11:13 am to
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not generally, but if your post about it also says something like "if we all buy it, the price will go up and their shorts will become expensive" probably is
Not true
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
466724 posts
Posted on 1/28/21 at 11:14 am to
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Their transactions are designed to take advantage of the market conditions personally

does this instance of taking advantage require others to purchase the stock to be successful? more directly, HAVE people been induced to purchase GME due to this?

obviously yes.

Posted by BiteMe2020
Texas
Member since Nov 2020
7284 posts
Posted on 1/28/21 at 11:17 am to
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does this instance of taking advantage require others to purchase the stock to be successful? more directly, HAVE people been induced to purchase GME due to this?

obviously yes.


Any time you buy a stock this applies, lol.

Moron.
Posted by kywildcatfanone
Wildcat Country!
Member since Oct 2012
136211 posts
Posted on 1/28/21 at 11:19 am to
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What, at the end of the day, is the real difference in a hedge fund and these guys?

They formed their own hedge fund and stuck it to the other hedge funds. The others got beat at their own game. Wah




Yep
Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
103149 posts
Posted on 1/28/21 at 11:20 am to
Yep.

And it is a problem because one side is the only side who is supposed to be able to frick people out of their money.
Posted by BiteMe2020
Texas
Member since Nov 2020
7284 posts
Posted on 1/28/21 at 11:21 am to
Oh, an I'm on my second 30% gain today.
Posted by WDE24
Member since Oct 2010
54838 posts
Posted on 1/28/21 at 11:24 am to
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does this instance of taking advantage require others to purchase the stock to be successful?
no

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more directly, HAVE people been induced to purchase GME due to this?

sure, just like people are induced to buy stocks on information they think will make the stock price rise or people are induced to short stocks they think will fall.

The purpose of the trade wasnt to induce other buyers. The purpose of the trade was an evaluation of the market conditions and to invest in a stock that was over shorted. That strategy was openly shared, which transformed into an internet meme that went viral. Good luck to the SEC proving illegality.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
466724 posts
Posted on 1/28/21 at 11:27 am to
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The purpose of the trade wasnt to induce other buyers. The purpose of the trade was an evaluation of the market conditions and to invest in a stock that was over shorted.

which required others to buy and their actions created the price increase that induced them to buy

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Good luck to the SEC proving illegality.

I'd be more worried about the FBI

remember, SOMEONE WAS ARRESTED THIS WEEK FOR POSTING A MEME IN 2016
Posted by WDE24
Member since Oct 2010
54838 posts
Posted on 1/28/21 at 11:33 am to
Bloomberg article discussing the legality question


It doesn’t provide a clear answer and, because of the vagueness of the statute, I doubt anyone could.
This post was edited on 1/28/21 at 11:35 am
Posted by BiteMe2020
Texas
Member since Nov 2020
7284 posts
Posted on 1/28/21 at 11:33 am to
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I'd be more worried about the FBI

remember, SOMEONE WAS ARRESTED THIS WEEK FOR POSTING A MEME IN 2016


So now you're equivocating on what is actually illegal vs. a politically motivated sham prosecution.


You're hopping over the fence back and forth, back and forth.
Posted by DesScorp
Alabama
Member since Sep 2017
9607 posts
Posted on 1/28/21 at 11:34 am to
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
466724 posts
Posted on 1/28/21 at 11:40 am to
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I doubt anyone could

like i said earlier in this thread, ultimately each case would be decided by a jury, so it's all speculation until then
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
466724 posts
Posted on 1/28/21 at 11:41 am to
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So now you're equivocating on what is actually illegal vs. a politically motivated sham prosecution.

if they prosecuted message board posters, it would be a politically motivated prosecution with the same sham-like qualities
Posted by BiteMe2020
Texas
Member since Nov 2020
7284 posts
Posted on 1/28/21 at 11:42 am to
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like i said earlier in this thread, ultimately each case would be decided by a jury, so it's all speculation until then


So, all the times above where you were definitively saying it was most certainly illegal - you were just speculating, lol?

Alright, I'm done yanking your chain. I hope you're really not a lawyer. You're not good at it.
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