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re: 40% of young US women say they aren’t having kids because they’re too expensive
Posted on 9/26/24 at 9:36 am to DingLeeBerry
Posted on 9/26/24 at 9:36 am to DingLeeBerry
Most people are too stupid to have children so I think this is a good trend.
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Posted on 9/26/24 at 9:37 am to DingLeeBerry
It use to be that family (parents, kids, siblings, etc) were the most important part of your life.
Now it is money, traveling, and dogs. Signs of a dying civilization.
Now it is money, traveling, and dogs. Signs of a dying civilization.
This post was edited on 9/26/24 at 9:38 am
Posted on 9/26/24 at 9:37 am to TN Tygah
quote:I know this sounds crazy, but that ends pretty quickly. In fact that was you for a few years
I am reminded of this every time I go home and my sister has to change my nephew’s diaper or go home early because he keeps crying, or he’s screaming at a pitch that’s intolerable to humans but people think it’s cute… etc
Posted on 9/26/24 at 9:38 am to TN Tygah
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Guilty
Kids are overrated. I am reminded of this every time I go home and my sister has to change my nephew’s diaper or go home early because he keeps crying, or he’s screaming at a pitch that’s intolerable to humans but people think it’s cute… etc
A lot of people just aren’t cut out to have kids. Instead of having them and regretting them or getting pregnant and getting an abortion, they’re choosing to do the smart thing.
I’m fine without having them at the moment. I agree with some things.
The thing about your explanation is many people who feel the same way find out they want kids when it’s already too late. It’s never too late for men, but the women usually suffer.
Then they struggle and try to freeze their eggs and do IVF.
They regret dumping that good guy who would have been a good husband so she could explore and party.
It happens in the late 30’s to 40’s.
Posted on 9/26/24 at 9:39 am to Mickey Goldmill
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Love? Commitment?
Neither requires a state license nor a binding legal contract.
Posted on 9/26/24 at 9:40 am to Gaggle
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That’s all you have to do now. I mean you could’ve paid for expensive education and toys back then too.
How many doctor's do kids have to go to nowadays? Eye, dentist, pediatrician, etc.
Do both parents work? If yes then child care which is expensive as hell.
Can't send your kid to shitty public school in this day and age so there is another expense. Not all but many feel parents should help pay for college.
The kid has to play at least one travel sport right? Oh they aren't starting better get them private lessons.
And all of this has no economic gain while back in the day a healthy child could mean more crops planted, more animals raised, more game brought home. All boils down to more children led to economic gain which is cold but that's just the facts.
To reiterate I'm not saying that having kids isn't worth it but the equation is very different than what it used to be. Our society has let this happen.
Posted on 9/26/24 at 9:41 am to Deuces
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We don’t want to have kids because it gets in the way of us gaming
Unfortunate reasoning. Some of my favorite times of my life have been gaming with my boys.
Posted on 9/26/24 at 9:44 am to Azkiger
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they can't afford housing,
They likely can, it just might not be their dream homes. It's a common mindset that one requires a 2,800 sq ft behemoth to support a family of 4, at least in my suburb.
In reality, a family of 6 can do just fine in something dramatically more compact and basic.
You can even build it yourself. People don't want to bad enough, and that's the ultimate driver.
Posted on 9/26/24 at 9:45 am to Deuces
quote:Indeed.
The thing about your explanation is many people who feel the same way find out they want kids when it’s already too late. It’s never too late for men, but the women usually suffer.
Then they struggle and try to freeze their eggs and do IVF.
They regret dumping that good guy who would have been a good husband so she could explore and party.
It happens in the late 30’s to 40’s.
Is Western culture stopping people from growing up?
Posted on 9/26/24 at 9:46 am to DingLeeBerry
90% of that 40% are liberal shitbags whose lineage needs to come to an end.
Let them self correct.
Let them self correct.
Posted on 9/26/24 at 9:46 am to DingLeeBerry
quote:Who is going to support them when they are Seniors with such a small work force with the population decline? China is faced with the same problem now due to the 'one child rule'.
40% of young US women say they aren’t having kids because they’re too expensive
Posted on 9/26/24 at 9:48 am to DingLeeBerry
Humanity is better off is these people mentioned in the article don’t breed.
Posted on 9/26/24 at 9:55 am to DingLeeBerry
1) I did the math this week and I will have spent hundreds of thousands on my kids’ education. That’s before one pair of Uggz or lululemon leggings, a used Nissan to drive to school, a week at Kanakuk or a dance competition.
2) Kids are awesome. We spoiled ours but I would do it all over again.
3) I don’t blame girls as much for not wanting to have kids given the failure to launch boys that are milling about the countryside. Just means the girls have to make good choices.
Both of my kids’ biggest goals are to have kids and build a family. My oldest is a pediatrician and she would walk away in a heartbeat if you made her choose between her career and kids.
The trends are predictable, given the zeitgeist. But being a single childless cat lady in your 40s leaves some holes in the heart, no matter what your Instagram profile looks like.
2) Kids are awesome. We spoiled ours but I would do it all over again.
3) I don’t blame girls as much for not wanting to have kids given the failure to launch boys that are milling about the countryside. Just means the girls have to make good choices.
Both of my kids’ biggest goals are to have kids and build a family. My oldest is a pediatrician and she would walk away in a heartbeat if you made her choose between her career and kids.
The trends are predictable, given the zeitgeist. But being a single childless cat lady in your 40s leaves some holes in the heart, no matter what your Instagram profile looks like.
Posted on 9/26/24 at 9:55 am to DingLeeBerry
Most people under age 50 who are childless made the decision they prefer pets such as dogs and cats vs the responsibility and cost of raising children, they do not want the financial burden of children cramping their leisure activities.
Posted on 9/26/24 at 9:57 am to DingLeeBerry
She ain't lying.
But let's be honest... we are all plebes and 2 kids will not be the difference between you reaching some high reaching goal or not.
It's a fear of commitment to something they can't just walk away from.
But let's be honest... we are all plebes and 2 kids will not be the difference between you reaching some high reaching goal or not.
It's a fear of commitment to something they can't just walk away from.
Posted on 9/26/24 at 9:57 am to DingLeeBerry
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In our time all Greece was visited by a dearth of children and generally a decay of population, owing to which the cities were denuded of inhabitants, and a failure of productiveness resulted, though there were no long-continued wars or serious pestilences among us. If, then, any one had advised our sending to ask the gods in regard to this, what we were to do or say in order to become more numerous and better fill our cities,—would he not have seemed a futile person, when the cause was manifest and the cure in our own hands? For this evil grew upon us rapidly, and without attracting attention, by our men becoming perverted to a passion for show and money and the pleasures of an idle life, and accordingly either not marrying at all, or, if they did marry, refusing to rear the children that were born, or at most one or two out of a great number, for the sake of leaving them well off or bringing them up in extravagant luxury. For when there are only one or two sons, it is evident that, if war or pestilence carries off one, the houses must be left heirless: and, like swarms of bees, little by little the cities become sparsely inhabited and weak.
Polybius on the Depopulation of Greece
Posted on 9/26/24 at 9:58 am to LB84
quote:and individuals continuing to decide these are ‘necessities’
Our society has let this happen.
They don’t need all those doctor visits. They definitely don’t need travel ball. And if you live in the same small town as the grandparents then that takes care of needing to pay for private school or daycare
Posted on 9/26/24 at 9:59 am to Henry Jones Jr
Yes, for example our childs tuition is over $700 a month and health insurance is over $600 a month. This is before grocerices(our monthly gorcery bill is probably close to $1,000 now) , diapers, uniforms, etc. We have good paying jobs and good health insurance. This isnt even about having nice vacations its about living pay check to pay check for the next 18 years or living off of credit cards. Its unfortunately a reality. Our daycare costs included meals and was $660 a month. We also don't live in a big city. Childcare in metro areas I have seen as high as $1,700 a month.
Posted on 9/26/24 at 10:02 am to DownshiftAndFloorIt
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They likely can, it just might not be their dream homes. It's a common mindset that one requires a 2,800 sq ft behemoth to support a family of 4, at least in my suburb.
This is too simplistic.
There are a myrid of things to consider when purchasing a home. Size and price aren't the only things. School districts, proximity to current job, crime rates, does the area flood often, etc.
Perhaps they could scrape enough to buy a shack in the hood and deal with crime, shitty schools, and a long commute. Wages have still stagnated, goods are still highly inflated.
We aren't promoting child bearing families anymore, not unless you're a welfare queen.
Posted on 9/26/24 at 10:04 am to SEC2789
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by SEC2789
I understand your point (living many of the same struggles), but there are alternatives. Public school, stay at home mom, downsized home, etc.
It's not the sexy option, but there are options.
Good families raising good children is the single most important duty of US citizens IMO.
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