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re: 3rd Soldier of the BlackHawk identified

Posted on 2/1/25 at 8:45 pm to
Posted by Longhorn Actual
Member since Dec 2023
3188 posts
Posted on 2/1/25 at 8:45 pm to
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So she was a Biden White House “social aide” and then became a pilot in record time. DEI written all over this tbh.

Political favors.


quote:

I’d love to know the timeline.

Social aide in the White House
ROTC
Pilot school

?


Both of these posts are yours, quoted in the order in which you posted them.

You reached a conclusion based on two untrue premises.

Then you post that you don't know the facts surrounding the very premises on which you based your previous conclusion.

I'm not even going to be nice about it anymore. Some of y'all are just plain ol' dumb motherfrickers.



She went through ROTC and commissioned during the Trump administration. She almost certainly completed rotary wing flight training by 2019 or early 2020 and has been serving in that role since.

She did not "become a pilot in record time," nor was she a WH aide prior to becoming a pilot.



Posted by The Boat
Member since Oct 2008
177271 posts
Posted on 2/1/25 at 8:45 pm to
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Thank you for your service.

What did she do?
Posted by Mandtgr47
Member since Aug 2024
7918 posts
Posted on 2/1/25 at 8:46 pm to
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1. ROTC
2. Flight School (18-24 months, could be longer if there’s a backlog)
3. Stationed at Ft Belvoir
4. White House aide


5. 500 hours of flight time, inexperienced, unqualified
6. Put in position that dangers public safety, thanks to #4.
7. Killed 60+ innocent victims.
Posted by Ingeniero
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2013
23008 posts
Posted on 2/1/25 at 8:48 pm to
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5. 500 hours of flight time, inexperienced, unqualified
6. Put in position that dangers public safety, thanks to #4.


Wasn't this a training flight? Wasn't her superior on comms and confirmed visuals of the aircraft they were supposed to avoid? Sounds like he was the DEI hire.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
128773 posts
Posted on 2/1/25 at 8:54 pm to
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She almost certainly completed rotary wing flight training by 2019 or early 2020 and has been serving in that role since.


Almost certainly?
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
128773 posts
Posted on 2/1/25 at 8:55 pm to
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Sounds like he was the DEI hire.


I like this post. It shows that you’re a troll.
Posted by monsterballads
Gulf of America
Member since Jun 2013
31513 posts
Posted on 2/1/25 at 8:55 pm to
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I'm not even going to be nice about it anymore. Some of y'all are just plain ol' dumb motherfrickers.


At least I didn’t kill myself and 60+ other people when making mistakes flying a bird.
Posted by Mandtgr47
Member since Aug 2024
7918 posts
Posted on 2/1/25 at 8:57 pm to
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Wasn't this a training flight? Wasn't her superior on comms and confirmed visuals of the aircraft they were supposed to avoid? Sounds like he was the DEI hire.


yeah, blame someone else when the last seconds she made a 35 degree turn and changed altitude. I'm not even saying he wasn't a dei hire....it is what the Biden Admin believed in. The best didn't matter, it was all about DEI, regardless if public safety was impacted or not. It was worth the risk to them. What do you think Harris was?
Posted by scottydoesntknow
Member since Nov 2023
10870 posts
Posted on 2/1/25 at 8:57 pm to
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It was tongue in cheek.


I know, it did sound like I was lashing at you because my wording wasnt great but I was just furthering the point.

I agree. This who modern day "men and women are the same" is the single worst thing that came with modernity.
Posted by Penrod
Member since Jan 2011
55427 posts
Posted on 2/1/25 at 9:01 pm to
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2. Please provide documented evidence that a male helicopter pilot would not have had this type of accident because they are male.

This isn’t a valid challenge, because it cannot be proved even if it is true.
Posted by Mandtgr47
Member since Aug 2024
7918 posts
Posted on 2/1/25 at 9:06 pm to
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Women should not be in the military, period.


As a former Military guy I disagree with this, there is a place for women in the Military. It just isn't in combat roles, imo. Nurse, Admin, clerical, stress reliever, etc.
Posted by BuckyCheese
Member since Jan 2015
57778 posts
Posted on 2/1/25 at 9:06 pm to
Massage therapist...
Posted by Longhorn Actual
Member since Dec 2023
3188 posts
Posted on 2/1/25 at 9:07 pm to
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She almost certainly completed rotary wing flight training by 2019 or early 2020 and has been serving in that role since.


Almost certainly?


Correct. "Almost certainly" means "I'm not going to state it as fact, because I don't know with 100% certainty, but the information we have is that 'she served as an aviation officer from 2019-2025', which could mean she was fully qualified by 2019 OR they use the term 'aviation officer' while they're still in flight training."

Any other attempted gotchas?
Posted by Mandtgr47
Member since Aug 2024
7918 posts
Posted on 2/1/25 at 9:09 pm to
I don't care if it was 2018 when she qualified...she had 500 HOURS.....500
Posted by Homesick Tiger
Greenbrier, AR
Member since Nov 2006
56146 posts
Posted on 2/1/25 at 9:14 pm to
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she had 500 HOURS.


Over a seven year period that's about 71 hours per year. That's not much flying time I'd think.
Posted by Trevaylin
south texas
Member since Feb 2019
10970 posts
Posted on 2/1/25 at 9:17 pm to
reviewing 18 pages of comments I offer the following

I was in rotc during the Viet nam war and it provided no useful skill

comment was made that helo flights were 2-3 hours logged

she had 450 hours flight time after 6 years

which means 150 flight in 6 years ,,, about 30 flights per year

ratio of daylite flights to night time could be 4-1

comes up to less than 1 night time flight every other month


that is not a lot of experience to be flying at 150 mph 200 feet above ground at night in the most congested air space in the US

I blame not the pilot , the management needs to be put in hell
Posted by Longhorn Actual
Member since Dec 2023
3188 posts
Posted on 2/1/25 at 9:24 pm to
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I don't care if it was 2018 when she qualified...she had 500 HOURS.....500


I'm not a rotary wing pilot in the United States Army (and I'm guessing you aren't either), so I don't have an opinion on that. However...

quote:

The co-pilot had 500 flying hours, which is considered a "normal" amount of experience.


Straight from SecDef...
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"We do know on our side who was involved. It was a fairly experienced crew, and that was doing a required annual night evaluation," Hegseth said

Posted by Longhorn Actual
Member since Dec 2023
3188 posts
Posted on 2/1/25 at 9:30 pm to
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At least I didn’t kill myself and 60+ other people when making mistakes flying a bird.


This is a fascinating rebuttal, given the context in which it was offered. I don't expect you to see it, but mercy...
Posted by BuckyCheese
Member since Jan 2015
57778 posts
Posted on 2/1/25 at 9:33 pm to
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"We do know on our side who was involved. It was a fairly experienced crew, and that was doing a required annual night evaluation," Hegseth said


From some of the stuff I have seen posted by military members, she was probably fairly experienced as far as an Army pilot goes. They don't fly nearly as much as commercial.


Not saying that's how it should be. That's just how it is currently.
Posted by DCtiger1
Member since Jul 2009
11783 posts
Posted on 2/1/25 at 9:34 pm to
1) you’re clearly not a veteran
2) your source is the fricking Atlantic
3) that bullshite story has been debunked over and over

But since you’re a vet, tell us how you feel about the withdrawal from Afghanistan?

Tell us how you feel about Benghazi?
This post was edited on 2/1/25 at 9:35 pm
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