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re: 32 degrees at North Pole; Louisiana gulf waters rising?

Posted on 12/24/16 at 12:54 am to
Posted by matthew25
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Posted on 12/24/16 at 12:54 am to
As you say, I'm about the same age and not trying to make a political statement either.

Shark teeth have been found just 10 minutes east of Jackson, Mississippi.

Did global warming have anything to do with Mississippi being under water?

Posted by matthew25
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Posted on 12/24/16 at 12:57 am to
32 degrees at the Pole according to KGTV in San Diego.
Posted by auggie
Opelika, Alabama
Member since Aug 2013
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Posted on 12/24/16 at 1:10 am to
quote:

As you say, I'm about the same age and not trying to make a political statement either.

Shark teeth have been found just 10 minutes east of Jackson, Mississippi.

Did global warming have anything to do with Mississippi being under water?


I think there were some geological upheavals that are a factor in that too. There are a lot of factors involved.
We don't find shark's teeth much In Alabama,even though some of our dirt looks the same.
Mississippi also doesn't have those rocky backbone ridges like Bama and further east and north.
Posted by auggie
Opelika, Alabama
Member since Aug 2013
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Posted on 12/24/16 at 1:18 am to
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I had never heard of that before. I just did a little reading on it and that is insane.


The thinning of the egg shell,so that the embryo is less likely to be born,in a population that returns to the same nesting grounds,inherently programmed, the long term bet is a sure thing.

Oh,the effects went UP the food chain too.

You said that you read about it,so you probably already know this.
This post was edited on 12/24/16 at 1:22 am
Posted by matthew25
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Posted on 12/24/16 at 1:25 am to
Also, excavation in last 2 years found rhinoceroses in Wayne County (south of Meridian), near the Alabama line.

Shark teeth have been found in Ohio, Ky and TN.
This post was edited on 12/24/16 at 1:38 am
Posted by auggie
Opelika, Alabama
Member since Aug 2013
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Posted on 12/24/16 at 1:38 am to
You know,there are so many factors:sea level,shifting of ground,side of a slope getting sunlight,shite can change so fast.

The one thing I love about California,is driving through,and watching how much it changes.Top 1 hill,and everything changes.
Posted by matthew25
Member since Jun 2012
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Posted on 12/24/16 at 2:02 am to
Flying over Cali = desert until you see the Pacific water, and only then do you start seeing green.
Posted by MrLarson
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Posted on 12/24/16 at 2:05 am to
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Shark teeth have been found in Ohio, Ky and TN.


I know a guy that found marble on his property in N Alabama about a mile from the Tennessee line and there was a fossil of an octopus in it.
Posted by auggie
Opelika, Alabama
Member since Aug 2013
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Posted on 12/24/16 at 2:12 am to
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Flying over Cali = desert until you see the Pacific water, and only then do you start seeing green.


Drive all over California a bit,watch it change.
Posted by rooster108bm
Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 12/24/16 at 3:20 am to
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We don't find shark's teeth much In Alabama,even though some of our dirt looks the same. 


Evidently you haven't scraped the leaves off the ground in Marengo county.
This post was edited on 12/24/16 at 3:22 am
Posted by ChineseBandit58
Pearland, TX
Member since Aug 2005
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Posted on 12/24/16 at 4:50 am to
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If you look at global temperature history you'll note the planet tends to warm up after an ice age.

We had a very recent one. People seem to forget about it.

This has been my question since day one. How do you recover from an ice age without warming the planet
Posted by Pectus
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Posted on 12/24/16 at 5:28 am to
Relative sea level change.
Posted by Pectus
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Posted on 12/24/16 at 5:31 am to
But is the rate of temperature increase from the last ice age faster than the other cycles?

And is the increase beyond previous levels.

Terms here are glacial/interglacial.
Posted by Pectus
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Posted on 12/24/16 at 5:34 am to
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We're in an ice age right now dude


We are in an interglacial stage of an icehouse state of Earth.

Greenhouse state would be like during the dinosaurs.
Posted by NC_Tigah
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Member since Sep 2003
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Posted on 12/24/16 at 5:34 am to
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Louisiana gulf waters rising?
The North Pole would have little or nothing to do with that. Greenland would. Changes in sealevel relate to glacial melt, not the melt of existing sea ice.

As an aside, current arctic temps are a weather pattern, not a climate pattern. The frigid polar zone shifted into Siberia. The cold there has been brutal. -60°F today. That shift translated into record lows in the US as well. The weather pattern will shift back shortly, and the discussion will then center around "sudden warming" in the US.
This post was edited on 12/24/16 at 6:03 am
Posted by Bestbank Tiger
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Posted on 12/24/16 at 5:40 am to
Arctic Ocean is water. You can't overflow a glass by melting ice.
Posted by SquirrelyBama
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Posted on 12/24/16 at 5:40 am to
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Posted by Pectus
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Posted on 12/24/16 at 5:42 am to
I found lots of shark teeth and coral about 30 minutes outside Monroe.

It was during a greenhouse. Paleocene Eocene Thermal Maximum.
This post was edited on 12/24/16 at 5:48 am
Posted by Pectus
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Posted on 12/24/16 at 5:45 am to
The important part is when.

How old are the shark teeth?

Those you speak of are Silurian period, so like about 350 million years old!
This post was edited on 12/24/16 at 7:36 am
Posted by Ramblin Wreck
Member since Aug 2011
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Posted on 12/24/16 at 6:42 am to
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Historically atmospheric CO2 conc was changed by the temp... not the other way around.


People ignore this in their arguments. The environmental scientists I work with believe that solar activity has by far the greatest impact on the earth's climate fluctuations. CO2 levels change based on the temperature. There is nothing we can do to control the sun. The argument that we are controlling the earth's temperature with the percent of CO2 we produce is akin to someone claiming that making their lawn wet caused it to rain.
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