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re: 2nd amendment begins with “well regulated militia” for a reason

Posted on 2/14/18 at 8:52 pm to
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
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Posted on 2/14/18 at 8:52 pm to
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Then why isn’t the death penalty a deterrent?


No chance this is a serious question.
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
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Posted on 2/14/18 at 8:53 pm to
The first and only thing that needs to happen right now is for people to understand and accept that guns are not the problem. Until that happens, frick them and any notion of a discussion.
Posted by Wolfhound45
Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 2/14/18 at 8:54 pm to
Coyotes are for common sense gun control. Just saying.
Posted by bhtigerfan
Baton Rouge
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Posted on 2/14/18 at 8:54 pm to
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PuntBamaPunt
So, you're not willing to do either, so STFU pussy.
Posted by kingbob
Sorrento, LA
Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 2/14/18 at 8:55 pm to
Because very few murders actually get solved. Very few that are solved result in a criminal conviction. Of those convictions, very few have enough evidence to warrant a death penalty. Of those only some ofcur in states where death is an option. Even then, the appeals process can take decades.

Death is not a poor deterrent, but the way we enforce our death penalty peaves a would-be criminal with a near zero percent chance of ever suffering said penalty inside of 20-30 years. There’s no reciprocity in that.
This post was edited on 2/14/18 at 8:57 pm
Posted by MintBerry Crunch
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Posted on 2/14/18 at 8:55 pm to
The Supreme Court disagrees. Heller
Posted by Centinel
Idaho
Member since Sep 2016
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Posted on 2/14/18 at 8:55 pm to
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The first and only thing that needs to happen right now is for people to understand and accept that guns are not the problem. Until that happens, frick them and any notion of a discussion.




Bingo. But why choose the hard road of addressing the underlying problem when you can choose the easy road of appeals to emotion and pointless legislation to show you care.
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
76732 posts
Posted on 2/14/18 at 8:55 pm to
frick them, too.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
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Posted on 2/14/18 at 8:56 pm to
frick off
Posted by lsufan1971
Zachary
Member since Nov 2003
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Posted on 2/14/18 at 8:56 pm to
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Death penalty isn't a deterrent because it takes 20+ years of appeals for death to occur.


It hasn’t always taken 20 years. The death penalty has been around since biblical times when judgment and sentencing was carried out swiftly. My point is the fear of reciprocity is an illogical assumption. People will kill and won’t give 2 shits about if your carrying or not. Look at Chicago. Every gangbanger has a gun. They all know everyone else is carrying and you think they are fearful of reciprocity...use your head.
This post was edited on 2/14/18 at 8:58 pm
Posted by Rougarou13
Brookhaven MS
Member since Feb 2015
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Posted on 2/14/18 at 8:57 pm to
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To be fair, it's Creator, Nature, and Nature's God, not "God"


God is my creator. You can call him by whatever name you prefer, but that is mine.

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the right to overthrow tyrannical government. That does not mean every right cited in the Constitution is a natural right


How would I manage to overthrow a tyrannical government if I’m disarmed?
Posted by Jcorye1
Tom Brady = GoAT
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Posted on 2/14/18 at 8:57 pm to
As always you forget "the people" is part of that particular right too.
Posted by Wolfhound45
Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 2/14/18 at 8:58 pm to
Clearly you are against common sense
Posted by Taxing Authority
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
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Posted on 2/14/18 at 8:58 pm to
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2nd amendment begins with “well regulated militia” for a reason
Go here: LINK It will teach you what the work "regulated" meant in the period. Good grief.
Posted by kingbob
Sorrento, LA
Member since Nov 2010
69188 posts
Posted on 2/14/18 at 8:59 pm to
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Every gangbanger has a gun. They all know everyone else is carrying and you think they are fear reciprocity...use your head.


Which is why contrary to popular belief, they rarely steal from each other, and instead rob innocent civilians, especially in areas with strict gun control where citizens are least likely to defend themselves.

Besides, the vast majority of “gangbanger” violence is not rooted in hate or desire to harm others but in black market economics. There is no legal means of settling disputes when dealing in illicit products. Violence is the only conflict solver. It would s why prohibition should be abolished.
This post was edited on 2/14/18 at 9:04 pm
Posted by lsufan1971
Zachary
Member since Nov 2003
23517 posts
Posted on 2/14/18 at 9:02 pm to
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Which is why contrary to popular belief, they rarely steal from each other, and instead rob innocent civilians, especially in areas with strict gun control where citizens are least likely to defend themselves.


Lol dude stop your making shite up. I have worked in LEO field for 25 years. Most of it dealing with crime data and statistics. You don’t know what you’re talking about.
Posted by shinerfan
Duckworld(Earth-616)
Member since Sep 2009
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Posted on 2/14/18 at 9:03 pm to
So you're saying that it refers to the State's right to keep and bear arms? Just who is the potential infringer we're being warned about?


It's too easy for stupid people to post on the internet in this country.
Posted by Antonio Moss
The South
Member since Mar 2006
49035 posts
Posted on 2/14/18 at 9:03 pm to
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Death penalty isn't a deterrent because it takes 20+ years of appeals for death to occur.



No.

The Death Penalty isn't a deterrent because 99% of people who commit homicide don't possess the ability of collective forethought and rationalization of their actions beyond the immediate future. They are acting on emotion and instinct. The deterrent argument doesn't work with life in prison for the same reason.
Posted by Centinel
Idaho
Member since Sep 2016
44120 posts
Posted on 2/14/18 at 9:03 pm to
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Lol dude stop your making shite up. I have worked in LEO field for 25 years. Most of it dealing with crime data and statistics. You don’t know what you’re talking about.


Soo....where do they get their guns?
Posted by lsufan1971
Zachary
Member since Nov 2003
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Posted on 2/14/18 at 9:04 pm to
Thank you
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