re: 200 nations agree to move off fossil fuels in historic pact

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What are they transitioning too, bicycles, horses and walking?

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Where have you been. They want to transition to almost all power coming from the electrical grids and the grids powered by wind, solar, nuclear and hydrogen/ammonia.

The hydrogen would amount to energy storage, since it would be made through electrolysis of water powered by wind and solar mostly.

It's mostly just big talk at this point. But if battery technology advances to the point that giant battery storage is possible at utility scale, then wind and solar becomes optimal.

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What are they transitioning too, bicycles, horses and walking?

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That and magical Unicorn farts and pixie dust. This is another play from the book of socialism/totalitarian forms of governance. The political ruling class will not, for one second, give up a single fossil fuel luxury item and they along with the financial elites will gain further power and widen the gap between the haves and the have nots. This has literally zero to do with environmental issues and is nothing more than a power grab.

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Transitioning off of oil and reducing reliance doesn't mean not using it at all.

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It means eventual mandates to use only non fossil fuel means of travel and we all know how efficient that shite is. It is to garner more power. If you have everyone reliant on an electrical vehicle then you just shut off the electrical grid and control everyone. Also, doesn't everyone know that with increased electrical usage that also means increased ways of generating said electricity? This = more coal burning, more natural gas burning, more nuclear generated power, etc. It does nothing beneficial for the environment.

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Do you think these companies are going to just continue investing in production equipment, labor, etc., if it's not profitable? It's a lot of work to get oil out of the earth and into consumables. They're not going to continue production for fun.

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Now now, the political board is no place for sound reason and logic.

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though I don’t think there is any imminent transition, pledge or no pledge.

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Of course not

This is just chicken littles melting about eating bugs and the usual nonsense

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I'll be dead and gone by the time that happens

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So, frick the future generations? what a pathetic human you are. I have 6 kids between the ages of 4-19 and I believe they are worth fighting for, I guess it must suck to be a miserable 'kunt' and not worry about what situation you will be leaving your kids and grandkids in.

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a life without fossil fuels means a life without paints and plastics. must suck

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You wouldn’t even be able to manufacture EVs without it. The plastic, rubber coating on wiring, tires- all made with oil. Even if you could upgrade the grid to all renewables where that many EVs can charge without using fossil fuel generated power.

You need oil for lubricants. Electrical grid components like transformers, high voltage capacitors, fluorescent light ballasts, and some high voltage switches and circuit breakers all use an insulating oil.

PVC pipe- made from oil.

Items made from petrochemicals -plastics, soaps and detergents, solvents, drugs, fertilizers, pesticides, explosives, synthetic fibres and rubbers, paints, epoxy resins,flooring and insulating materials, solar panels, and wind turbines.

What about heavy construction equipment? Farming equipment? There’s no electric technology to run a combine for 18 hours straight while you try to beat a rain to harvest your fields. You need diesel.

Eliminating fossil fuels means a return to how life was around 1800. You can’t even have electricity without oil because you can’t manufacture the components to generate it. We would be back to living in wooden homes with candlelight and riding horses and farming with a mule and plow and harvesting by hand without any pesticides or herbicides.

So tell me, will 8 billion people go along with this because a few hundred people decided it was good idea? Or just decide to eliminate the few hundred before it gets that bad

d/p

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I refuse to say "fossil fuels" as petroleum is produced naturally by the Earth).

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Oil comes from decomposed carbon based organisms. It is constantly being generated, and we won’t get close to using it all up in our lifetimes. It will get harder and mor expensive to extract though. We do need to find ways to reduce consumption of oil simply to make it last for generations as a form of maintaining modern society moreso than the environment. The earth repairs itself. As the climate gets warmer more areas become favorable to grow plant life which in turn will consume more C02 and eventually reverse the trend. The planet isn’t going to burn up or become inhabitable. There were major climate shifts well before we started drilling oil and will continue to be. The continents move, this affects ocean currents and climate patterns. The sun goes through cycles. We fear “rising oceans” and forget half the US was once underwater and at some point in the far future could be again. There are shifts occurring so slowly that in our short lifetimes we won’t even notice, but in 10,000 years the world will look way different. And people will slowly adapt without realizing we are adapting to it.

This is all about power hungry evil people seeking to control the masses. The sooner everyone realizes it, the sooner something can be done to stop it.

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Death Some by famine, some by camps, some by war

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War, conquest, famine, death.

Where have I heard of this before?