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re: 20 new papers published suggesting solar activity the key driving force of CC

Posted on 6/11/17 at 11:40 pm to
Posted by SirWinston
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Posted on 6/11/17 at 11:40 pm to
I hate people that mock the hosting site when there are clearly cited sources within that article.

We can't help it that WSJ and WP are biased as frick and would never run this story
Posted by antibarner
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Posted on 6/11/17 at 11:53 pm to
Al Gore has a risky scheme going that would make him the richest man on earth selling carbon credits to gullible sheep
Posted by Iosh
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Posted on 6/11/17 at 11:57 pm to
The papers don't seem to say what the site says they say, it looks like someone just ran a search for papers that mentioned sun and climate
Posted by AMS
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Posted on 6/12/17 at 12:13 am to
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Earlier this month, the first installment in the accumulating list of hundreds of new peer-reviewed scientific papers supporting a skeptical position on climate change alarm was made available. Included on the list were 38 papers linking climate changes to solar forcing: 38 Sun-Climate Scientific Papers, January-March 2017

Just in the last few weeks alone, another 20 scientific papers were identified which link solar variations to climate changes
, which means 58 papers have already been published in 2017.




the papers pretty much say what the site says they say.
Posted by Chad504boy
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Posted on 6/12/17 at 12:18 am to
Need a lot of tin foil to reflect it back
Posted by tarzana
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Posted on 6/12/17 at 12:22 am to
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20 new papers published

Who was the publisher? The Heritage Foundation? The Limbaugh Institute For Advanced Conservative Studies?
Posted by GeeOH
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Posted on 6/12/17 at 12:22 am to
I'm sure Maxine Walters will be by shortly to eloquently explain this is horseshite
Posted by tarzana
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Posted on 6/12/17 at 12:23 am to
You don't need to wait for Sweet Maxine. It IS horse shite.
Posted by John McClane
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Posted on 6/12/17 at 12:30 am to
So you think humans, rather than the sun, are the "key driving force" behind climate change?
Posted by KamaCausey_LSU
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Posted on 6/12/17 at 12:32 am to
Increased solar activity causes less hurricane activity.

International Journal on Climatology Paper

To put it simply it decreases the temperature difference between the upper atmosphere and sea surface temperature lowering the potential energy of the system.

Also, the hurricane record is much too short to make any conclusions about long term climate change, imo. Even using breaking paleotempestology methods, (ocean sediments in freshwater lakes, analysis of subterranean calcareous deposits, inland saltwater plant pollen), only major storms can be detected.

Also, some these papers use the assumption that the NAO (North Atlantic Oscillation) pressure pattern is driven by solar activity, which I am not entirely convinced of.
This post was edited on 6/12/17 at 1:11 am
Posted by tarzana
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Posted on 6/12/17 at 12:34 am to
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humans

Yes, it's humans who pump untold millions of cubic meters of carbon dioxide and other pollutants into the firmament on a constant basis
Posted by John McClane
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Posted on 6/12/17 at 12:38 am to
I'm not sure if you actually answered my question based on your limited quotation of my question.

To be sure, rather than put words in your mouth, are you saying that you believe humans, as opposed to the sun, are the "key driving force" behind climate change?

Yes or no.
This post was edited on 6/12/17 at 12:39 am
Posted by GeeOH
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Posted on 6/12/17 at 12:41 am to
Of course it is sweet guy, of course it is.....
Posted by tarzana
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Posted on 6/12/17 at 12:44 am to
Yes.

Humans are here by the billions and directly cause climate change; the sun is 150 km away (about 10 light MINUTES away from Earth) and can't possibly have that degree of effect on the climate.
Posted by John McClane
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Posted on 6/12/17 at 12:47 am to
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Yes.

Humans are here by the billions and directly cause climate change; the sun is 150 km away (about 10 light MINUTES away from Earth) and can't possibly have that degree of effect on the climate.


Oh this is awesome.
Posted by cokebottleag
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Posted on 6/12/17 at 2:10 am to
quote:

Yes.

Humans are here by the billions and directly cause climate change; the sun is 150 km away (about 10 light MINUTES away from Earth) and can't possibly have that degree of effect on the climate.





frickin' sun doesn't know shite about our climate. fricking solar flares n sheit.
Posted by CamdenTiger
Member since Aug 2009
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Posted on 6/12/17 at 2:21 am to
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But how can we make money off the solar cycle?


Solar border wall
Posted by Errerrerrwere
Member since Aug 2015
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Posted on 6/12/17 at 2:24 am to
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Easy. You push this info at people, ignoring the disturbing standard deviation since humans started mass producing machines, and deregulate and pollute without fines!


OP posted this thread with a link. It's a pretty long article and you posted this bullshite 5 minutes later.

There is no way you read this article yet you come in to disprove it in a matter of minutes.

You are the very definition of a shill.

How does it feel to be so narrow minded?

Surely, you would want ALL types of information before you go saving the world, huh homey?
Posted by Lsuchs
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Posted on 6/12/17 at 2:51 am to
quote:

the sun is 150 km away (about 10 light MINUTES away from Earth) and can't possibly have that degree of effect on the climate











quote:

the sun is 150 km away (about 10 light MINUTES away from Earth) and can't possibly have that degree of effect on the climate

This post was edited on 6/12/17 at 3:13 am
Posted by cokebottleag
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Posted on 6/12/17 at 4:24 am to
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the sun is 150 km away


94,500,000 miles = 150 kilometers

I'm not super great with the metric system, but I don't think that's quite accurate.
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