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re: 20 new papers published suggesting solar activity the key driving force of CC
Posted on 6/11/17 at 11:40 pm to cokebottleag
Posted on 6/11/17 at 11:40 pm to cokebottleag
I hate people that mock the hosting site when there are clearly cited sources within that article.
We can't help it that WSJ and WP are biased as frick and would never run this story
We can't help it that WSJ and WP are biased as frick and would never run this story
Posted on 6/11/17 at 11:53 pm to SirWinston
Al Gore has a risky scheme going that would make him the richest man on earth selling carbon credits to gullible sheep
Posted on 6/11/17 at 11:57 pm to cokebottleag
The papers don't seem to say what the site says they say, it looks like someone just ran a search for papers that mentioned sun and climate
Posted on 6/12/17 at 12:13 am to Iosh
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Earlier this month, the first installment in the accumulating list of hundreds of new peer-reviewed scientific papers supporting a skeptical position on climate change alarm was made available. Included on the list were 38 papers linking climate changes to solar forcing: 38 Sun-Climate Scientific Papers, January-March 2017
Just in the last few weeks alone, another 20 scientific papers were identified which link solar variations to climate changes, which means 58 papers have already been published in 2017.
the papers pretty much say what the site says they say.
Posted on 6/12/17 at 12:18 am to cokebottleag
Need a lot of tin foil to reflect it back
Posted on 6/12/17 at 12:22 am to cokebottleag
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20 new papers published
Who was the publisher? The Heritage Foundation? The Limbaugh Institute For Advanced Conservative Studies?
Posted on 6/12/17 at 12:22 am to cokebottleag
I'm sure Maxine Walters will be by shortly to eloquently explain this is horseshite
Posted on 6/12/17 at 12:23 am to GeeOH
You don't need to wait for Sweet Maxine. It IS horse shite.
Posted on 6/12/17 at 12:30 am to tarzana
So you think humans, rather than the sun, are the "key driving force" behind climate change?
Posted on 6/12/17 at 12:32 am to cokebottleag
Increased solar activity causes less hurricane activity.
International Journal on Climatology Paper
To put it simply it decreases the temperature difference between the upper atmosphere and sea surface temperature lowering the potential energy of the system.
Also, the hurricane record is much too short to make any conclusions about long term climate change, imo. Even using breaking paleotempestology methods, (ocean sediments in freshwater lakes, analysis of subterranean calcareous deposits, inland saltwater plant pollen), only major storms can be detected.
Also, some these papers use the assumption that the NAO (North Atlantic Oscillation) pressure pattern is driven by solar activity, which I am not entirely convinced of.
International Journal on Climatology Paper
To put it simply it decreases the temperature difference between the upper atmosphere and sea surface temperature lowering the potential energy of the system.
Also, the hurricane record is much too short to make any conclusions about long term climate change, imo. Even using breaking paleotempestology methods, (ocean sediments in freshwater lakes, analysis of subterranean calcareous deposits, inland saltwater plant pollen), only major storms can be detected.
Also, some these papers use the assumption that the NAO (North Atlantic Oscillation) pressure pattern is driven by solar activity, which I am not entirely convinced of.
This post was edited on 6/12/17 at 1:11 am
Posted on 6/12/17 at 12:34 am to John McClane
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humans
Yes, it's humans who pump untold millions of cubic meters of carbon dioxide and other pollutants into the firmament on a constant basis
Posted on 6/12/17 at 12:38 am to tarzana
I'm not sure if you actually answered my question based on your limited quotation of my question.
To be sure, rather than put words in your mouth, are you saying that you believe humans, as opposed to the sun, are the "key driving force" behind climate change?
Yes or no.
To be sure, rather than put words in your mouth, are you saying that you believe humans, as opposed to the sun, are the "key driving force" behind climate change?
Yes or no.
This post was edited on 6/12/17 at 12:39 am
Posted on 6/12/17 at 12:41 am to tarzana
Of course it is sweet guy, of course it is.....
Posted on 6/12/17 at 12:44 am to John McClane
Yes.
Humans are here by the billions and directly cause climate change; the sun is 150 km away (about 10 light MINUTES away from Earth) and can't possibly have that degree of effect on the climate.
Humans are here by the billions and directly cause climate change; the sun is 150 km away (about 10 light MINUTES away from Earth) and can't possibly have that degree of effect on the climate.
Posted on 6/12/17 at 12:47 am to tarzana
quote:
Yes.
Humans are here by the billions and directly cause climate change; the sun is 150 km away (about 10 light MINUTES away from Earth) and can't possibly have that degree of effect on the climate.
Oh this is awesome.
Posted on 6/12/17 at 2:10 am to tarzana
quote:
Yes.
Humans are here by the billions and directly cause climate change; the sun is 150 km away (about 10 light MINUTES away from Earth) and can't possibly have that degree of effect on the climate.
![](https://howhaveyounotseenthis.files.wordpress.com/2015/08/sun-vs-earth.png)
frickin' sun doesn't know shite about our climate. fricking solar flares n sheit.
Posted on 6/12/17 at 2:21 am to Lsuchs
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But how can we make money off the solar cycle?
Solar border wall
Posted on 6/12/17 at 2:24 am to Ebbandflow
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Easy. You push this info at people, ignoring the disturbing standard deviation since humans started mass producing machines, and deregulate and pollute without fines!
OP posted this thread with a link. It's a pretty long article and you posted this bullshite 5 minutes later.
There is no way you read this article yet you come in to disprove it in a matter of minutes.
You are the very definition of a shill.
How does it feel to be so narrow minded?
Surely, you would want ALL types of information before you go saving the world, huh homey?
Posted on 6/12/17 at 2:51 am to tarzana
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the sun is 150 km away (about 10 light MINUTES away from Earth) and can't possibly have that degree of effect on the climate
![](https://i446.photobucket.com/albums/qq184/lsuchs/Mobile%20Uploads/4D4D6160-77FE-4798-AA1D-8B84C6834609_zpshn9moz7j.gif)
quote:
the sun is 150 km away (about 10 light MINUTES away from Earth) and can't possibly have that degree of effect on the climate
![](https://i446.photobucket.com/albums/qq184/lsuchs/Mobile%20Uploads/E14A377C-D0B6-4AF9-9819-3549FF3A16E9_zpsrjekgmjt.gif)
This post was edited on 6/12/17 at 3:13 am
Posted on 6/12/17 at 4:24 am to tarzana
quote:
the sun is 150 km away
94,500,000 miles = 150 kilometers
I'm not super great with the metric system, but I don't think that's quite accurate.
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