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re: 2 people I know We're fired today / yesterday For speaking their minds.
Posted on 7/9/20 at 12:12 pm to the808bass
Posted on 7/9/20 at 12:12 pm to the808bass
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I already did. You kind of agreed that it’s not your ox being gored.
You basically argues “you wouldn’t like being fired for saying something” and of course I agree.
The point is try not to put myself in that position.
This post was edited on 7/9/20 at 12:13 pm
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Posted on 7/9/20 at 12:14 pm to SammyTiger
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The point is try not to put myself in that position.
The company led them into it
Posted on 7/9/20 at 12:14 pm to SammyTiger
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If you’re just saying All Lives Matter to disagree with someone saying “Black Lives Matter” than you’re just disagreeing with someone saying BLM and the whole ALM feels pretty disingenuous.
Kind of like when they only claim BLM when a white police officer kills a repeat offender who resists arrest but are silent when children are gunned down in the streets?
Posted on 7/9/20 at 12:15 pm to SammyTiger
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If courts can force a baker to bake gay wedding cakes, than I think a conservative who had her university acceptance threatened for her political beliefs has a case.
My point was a bit before that. You wouldn’t be happy having your speech be dictated where you couldn’t say things which are absolutely true and aren’t objectively offensive but instead have merely been arbitrarily determined to be offensive. You are happy that a person cannot say “white lives matter” in the workplace.
Posted on 7/9/20 at 12:21 pm to the808bass
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You wouldn’t be happy having your speech be dictated where you couldn’t say things which are absolutely true and aren’t objectively offensive but instead have merely been arbitrarily determined to be offensive. You are happy that a person cannot say “white lives matter” in the workplace.
Um it is.
I like a lot of people work in a place where I cant just say whatever I want so long as it’s objectively true.
And I think he said “white lives matter too” which makes me feel like the context wasn’t very tactful on his part.
Posted on 7/9/20 at 12:23 pm to NPComb
"The 2 people who lost their jobs, are only protected from Government Prosecution."
Not a liberal or leftist.
As proof I submit the following for your review.
Kaepernick was justly fired, even if, he was fired for kneeling during the National Anthem.
If your employer doesn't like what you are doing on his dime, and or, representing his company or his companies values he should be able to fire you.
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I love how liberals have become corporate supporters and have adopted authoritarianism. Trump is amazing at how he has turned you guys around. Historically, if a liberal was fired for speaking their minds there was outrage and lawsuits by the progressive community. Now, when someone is fired for speaking their mind (not liberal) it's celebrated.
Not a liberal or leftist.
As proof I submit the following for your review.
Kaepernick was justly fired, even if, he was fired for kneeling during the National Anthem.
If your employer doesn't like what you are doing on his dime, and or, representing his company or his companies values he should be able to fire you.
Posted on 7/9/20 at 12:24 pm to SammyTiger
You’re still trying to dance around the point. You’re fine with ideas being censored that you disagree with and using the excuse of “capitalism” as a pretext for that censorship. You don’t see any of this being a threat to you because you believe the right things. You’re a walking commercial for 1984.
Posted on 7/9/20 at 12:24 pm to Aristo
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Kind of like when they only claim BLM when a white police officer kills a repeat offender who resists arrest but are silent when children are gunned down in the streets?
Sure. I ‘m not going to pretend they don’t have any blind spots, but the movement generally argues for better schools, and community programs to help people get out of poverty. Which is a direct relation to crime.
Posted on 7/9/20 at 12:26 pm to ApexTiger
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The company led them into it
Companies are leading their employees to intellectual suicide through Diversity, Inclusion and Equity training.
Posted on 7/9/20 at 12:27 pm to midnight_chopper
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understand the difference and agree that private companies have this right. But the ideal should extend beyond just government controlled speech. Either we as a society hold the ideal as important or we don’t. We are basically giving up the right by allowing the “private” sector to control what is acceptable speech.
100% agree. Just because a person isn't jailed does not mean their life should be ruined, and by such arbitrary lines that are constantly moving.
Posted on 7/9/20 at 12:29 pm to the808bass
I am fine with actions having consequences.
Sorry but that’s just how it is. These things are always going to be objective but I am Not sure what the alternative is.
Can you tell me?
Sorry but that’s just how it is. These things are always going to be objective but I am Not sure what the alternative is.
Can you tell me?
Posted on 7/9/20 at 12:30 pm to SammyTiger
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what the alternative is. Can you tell me?
You people stop being triggered pussies. Easy.
Posted on 7/9/20 at 12:31 pm to SammyTiger
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but the movement generally argues for better schools, and community programs to help people get out of poverty. Which is a direct relation to crime.
But are against vouchers that would allow the kids parents to send their kid to a "better" school.
Community programs
They don't help people get out of poverty. Working, not having kids out of wedlock, not rearing those kids as a single parent, and not graduating from high school(regardless of how shitty the school was), are the best things one can do to get out of poverty.
Posted on 7/9/20 at 12:31 pm to SammyTiger
If half the country runs interference for their political opponents that they work with being damaged for political opinions, then it’s not going to end well.
The obvious alternative is to find ways to coexist and not make religious tenets out of what are simply political disagreements.
The obvious alternative is to find ways to coexist and not make religious tenets out of what are simply political disagreements.
Posted on 7/9/20 at 12:31 pm to ApexTiger
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The company led them into it
How?
Posted on 7/9/20 at 12:32 pm to roadGator
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You people stop being triggered pussies. Easy.
Your answer was shorter than mine.
Posted on 7/9/20 at 12:32 pm to SammyTiger
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How?
Here’s some more obfuscation dressed up as naïveté. Fascinating.
Posted on 7/9/20 at 12:33 pm to the808bass
I’m more blunt for sure.
It’s too late for compromise. Unless the pendulum swings back they will cancel every one not walking their little Marxist line.
It’s too late for compromise. Unless the pendulum swings back they will cancel every one not walking their little Marxist line.
Posted on 7/9/20 at 12:36 pm to the808bass
quote:there should be nothing political about thinking black lives matter though. Just like there shouldn’t be anything political about wearing masks
The obvious alternative is to find ways to coexist and not make religious tenets out of what are simply political disagreements.
Posted on 7/9/20 at 12:36 pm to TS1926
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That’s already happened. EPM fired the step mother of the officer involved in the Atlanta shooting due to her presence “creating a hostile work environment.”
I meant more of an average Anglo. Going to HR and saying too much politics is being discussed at work. “I feel drawn in or expected to converse in a discussion that may cost me my job if my points are misinterpreted. “
Something like that.
Your example is more of an outlier being the parent of an officer involved. It beyond sucks for her though. Was her stepson the actual shooter or just one of the other poor bastards on the call?
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