re: 2 of the 4 Sniper Teams were Local Cops

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I wouldn’t be surprised to see many rally attendees in (relatively) rural/suburban area armed, ready, and on the lookout going forward.

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They aren’t getting inside the rallies with guns or weapons. Unless you’re saying they’ll be outside

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This may be the biggest frick up.

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There’s no “may” to it. It is obviously the biggest frick up.

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At least in the last 40 years, possibly 60. The SS fricked up bigly in Dallas when JFK died. You can argue they were less well-trained, though.

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They didn’t wait multiple minutes after a shooter was discovered to move him. Though failing to clear that building was a massive failure—albeit that is with hindsight, considering it was the first attempt of that type on a POTUS.

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I have this feeling we're going to find out that there wasn't universal communication avenues and the right hand didn't know what the left hand was doing fast enough.

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Another outstanding idea that no one else has ever considered. Amazing.

For years we’ve been hearing and seeing evidence that local police forces are “militarizing”. We see armored vehicles, state of the art equipment/weapons, hordes of guys in multicam, etc.

And now we need them to stop a 20 year old from killing Trump and they are useless.

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Two minutes is more than enough time to overcome that issue.

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Easily. Thats a long arse time.

Unless we are living in the 1700s with no modern communications.

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We don’t know who had direct responsibility for that rooftop. Ultimately the SS detail lead owns it, just like a military commander owns what subordinates do. This should be a firing offense up to and including the director.

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Correct. That was posted 2 days ago, within the context of “who was doing what”, not who’s ultimately responsible. That’s a no shitter. USSS owns the whole op.

My point was that assuming “a full contingent” meant anything specific and that every CS team was a highly trained USSS element was iffy because they were certainly augmented by local/state LE…who aren’t that well trained.

And that nobody new (at the time I posted it) who (USSS CS, some local yahoo, etc.) had responsibility for that rooftop.

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like possibly fewer events being approved in open spaces like this

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I’ve been wondering how this will impact Trump’s campaign schedule. He’ll do them inside if he has to—there are plenty of venues. But it would suck for him to not have the larger outdoor rallies.

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would argue that this is a far more obvious frick up than Dallas

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yeah for sure. Dallas had building after building that had to be cleared along with a moving target they had to cover.

This place had a couple rooftops and immobile target. Pretty freaking simple.