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re: 1994 Budapest Memorandum Ukraine gives up it's Nukes in exchange for security assurances.
Posted on 3/2/25 at 4:57 pm to Toomer Deplorable
Posted on 3/2/25 at 4:57 pm to Toomer Deplorable
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This is Deep State fan fiction. The fall of Russia’s client state in Syria is a testament to that.
Russia could not muster the required resources to quell the rebel insurgency against the Assad Regime while continuing it’s occupation of the Donbas region. Russia has neither the economic might nor a sustainable birth rate ratio for any revanchist aims to restore the Soviet Empire.
Yup, they can do regional moves, not global moves.
Georgia, Armenia.
Baltics if the EU drives Trump out of NATO.
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Posted on 3/2/25 at 5:07 pm to Rebel
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Lost their nukes under Clinton Lost Crimea under Obama Lost the Donbas under Biden I see a pattern
Lost their minds over Trump.
Posted on 3/2/25 at 5:12 pm to AggieHank86
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you are the third or fourth person in this thread who just seems to assume that Russia was naturally entitled to the military assets of the former Soviet Union. Why?
The Soviet Union was made up of Russia and its subordinates. The red army pretty much controlled Eastern Europe. There was no Ukraine until 1991.
Posted on 3/2/25 at 5:13 pm to TigerPlate
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but voluntarily gave up its arsenal under the 1994 Budapest Memorandum in exchange for security assurances
That was dumb.
If youre not a nuclear power today, you have no leverage.
Posted on 3/2/25 at 5:28 pm to Narax
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Yup, they can do regional moves, not global moves.
Otherwise known as “spheres of influence”.
Despite Anthony Blinken’s proclamation indicating that “spheres of influence” was a 19th century artifact that should be “relegated to the dustbin of history”, recognizing such regional hegemony serves as the cornerstone of the United States’ foreign policy objectives in the Western Hemisphere, the Monroe Doctrine.
In other words, the “rules based international order” promoted by deeply embedded technocrats in both Washington and Brussels means “do as we say and not as we do”.
Posted on 3/2/25 at 6:24 pm to TigerPlate
Posted on 3/2/25 at 8:21 pm to Indefatigable
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throw off the yolk of US influence
Posted on 3/2/25 at 8:29 pm to AggieHank86
touche. I’ll leave that one. This post was edited on 3/2/25 at 8:30 pm
Posted on 3/2/25 at 8:36 pm to ApexTiger
Good thing Russia didn’t join. They’d become like the rest of Europe and leave us footing the bill.
Posted on 3/2/25 at 8:37 pm to Indefatigable
Posted on 3/3/25 at 1:42 pm to Indefatigable
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You disagree? Feel free to explain. Are you implying that the entire Warsaw Pact sans Belarus begged to get in as soon as they were eligible because Brussels forced them to?
No, the CIA and State interfered to make it so.
Taking applications…lol.
Posted on 3/3/25 at 1:45 pm to AggieHank86
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you are the third or fourth person in this thread who just seems to assume that Russia was naturally entitled to the military assets of the former Soviet Union. Why?
And who assumed the USSR’s debts
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Ukraine was entitled to its share, yet surrendered it
No, you moron, they sold them
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