re: 17 yo HS baseball player dies suddenly. RN says that Covid vaccine is likely cause

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You made an oblique appeal to her authority:

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Wrong. I made a prediction that people would dismiss her opinion because of her credentials.

I later clarified this by saying explicitly that SFPLC and she have just as much right to comment on the case as each other. The fact that you have ignored this twice now illustrates that you have absolutely no intention of engaging in good faith discussion. Which is also something I predicted when I said, "I can see that this thread is going to draw multiple shill types who intend to lie their frickin asses off."

Thanks for proving me correct.

Again, your "logic" is non-existent here.

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Hospitals in AZ are trying to say Valley Fever caused it, yeah right

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I’m not sure what the hell hospitals in Arizona have to do with this.

This happened in my current knock of the woods. I was at my son’s HS game this afternoon when I heard about it from a dad whose kid played with this kid. Sad whatever the cause.

There was no “event” ahead of him dropping. Crazy scary.

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I just noted that people like yourself would dismiss her opinion based on her being a nurse

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Well, part of the issue is that nurses and doctors are trained differently. If I was trying to convince people that the vaccine was the cause of some condition, the way you would structure arguments, present evidence, gather data has to be a particular standard. Ultimately, it has to result in a consistent, reproducible symptomology. Everyone is free to make the style of argument which would most convince other people in the field, but they don't. The work, on a sentence level, is generally sloppy and when they do try to do a mimicry of the type of that argument structure, they give themselves away with wild statements which no serious person would make. Here, she makes no attempt to even reach that standard and just dismisses the stated reason outright. Why should I even take her argument seriously, without knowing anything about the patient?

A registered nurse? What do the plumbers say? For goodness sake, nurses are not doctors, and even practicing doctors would not be experts in this. That would be reserved for those who are doing large scale studies.

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did you take it?

Yes but not for medical reasons


As usual, you just love to say stupid stuff to start an argument.

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I would answer just as SFP did. I took the vaccine, but also not for medical reasons. I had to be vaccinated in order to travel abroad and meet my then nine month old grandson. I’d do the same in a jiffy if presented with that choice. I didn’t know if the vaccine was very useful, but I knew it was not useful to me because I had already had covid. I got covid because I lived large during the pandemic, not being afraid of covid. And I took the vaccine because I wasn’t afraid of it either. In retrospect, I was right about both.

This happened about 45 minutes from me. He played a baseball game that day and then ended up throwing up later that day. Went brain dead that night. Nobody knew what was going on. A lot of people and teams praying for that boy the last couple days, but unfortunately he passed

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Did this nurse actually treat the kid?

If not, regardless of her credentials, she should not be weighing in like this.

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And if she was a real nurse and treated him, she wouldn't.

On second thought...real nurses sometimes do stupid stuff, like the ones who got fired for mouthing off after Charlie Kirk was killed.

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Well what she is saying is that there have been 3 such cases across the US in the past week (two in Arizona and one in Ohio (I think?)) that were attributed to a fungal infection that has a less than 1% fatality rate and almost all of those deaths occur in elderly immunocompromised individuals.

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Again, it depends on the actual cases. There are several scenarios I can think (such as immune injury when young, chronic infection, co-infection, genetic disorders, immune dysfunction, vague symptomology which hides how serious the infection actually is and on and on) that could potentially cause death in young people from fungal infections. Without a detailed history, it is impossible to ascertain the cause in a definitive sense.

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So what's someone supposed to think when the official "cause of death" is obvious bullshite?

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I mean, you aren't required to have an opinion on every little thing. Society might demand that we have disparate events fit into narrow worldviews, but in the spectrum of human experience, this has likely happened somewhere someplace before. The difference now is that we hear about it and can discuss it when we are far removed from the actual situation.

I can understand the notion that perhaps this is linked to something insidious, but until we see the pathology in each individual case and actually investigate, there is no way to actually link these together in a meaningful way.

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You made an oblique appeal to her authority:

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Wrong. I made a prediction that people would dismiss her opinion because of her credentials.

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You tried to discredit people who would dismiss her authority:

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In before people dismiss this because it's a nurse saying it.

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Those are facts. You cannot alter them no matter how many times you try.

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I later clarified this by saying explicitly that SFPLC and she have just as much right to comment on the case as each other. The fact that you have ignored this twice now illustrates that you have absolutely no intention of engaging in good faith discussion.

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I have repeatedly and consistently acknowledged the fact that you explicitly stated to SFP that he has the same right to comment as RN:

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Nor should you

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She has just as much a right to comment on the case

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I am engaging in good faith discussion. I am not changing the facts.

To the contrary, you are attempting to change the facts, and changing the facts is NOT good faith discussion.