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re: 17-year-old is on life support after being shot by San Antonio officer at McDonald's

Posted on 10/12/22 at 10:32 am to
Posted by squid_hunt
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2021
11272 posts
Posted on 10/12/22 at 10:32 am to
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Weird how you don’t think they apply to this cop

Go back and read what I said without a dick in your mouth and show me where I said that.
Posted by ChineseBandit58
Pearland, TX
Member since Aug 2005
47896 posts
Posted on 10/12/22 at 10:33 am to
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that is entirely wrong.

I agree with your analysis, but I still have seen nothing other than this short clip. There are possiblilities where this action could be validated - they are far out and very unlikely but they exist - based on the limited info I have.

And I am not inclined to do my own investigation.

I am content to just say - "this looks awfully indefensible - I presume there will be a swift investigation of ALL the facts and a suitable resolution will be soon known. Until then, I will hold my opinions about ANY individual or position unaffiliated with this event."
Posted by Sam Quint
Member since Sep 2022
8046 posts
Posted on 10/12/22 at 10:35 am to
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I am content to just say - "this looks awfully indefensible - I presume there will be a swift investigation of ALL the facts and a suitable resolution will be soon known. Until then, I will hold my opinions about ANY individual or position unaffiliated with this event."

yeah, i pretty much agree...except i have no problem giving my opinion
Posted by blueboy
Member since Apr 2006
62825 posts
Posted on 10/12/22 at 10:36 am to
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Why don't you think the cops should comply to the law?
Why do you think non-compliance is as good as compliance?

'Just comply'
'DeShaun got shot even though he complied. Therefore, you're wrong.'

What do you think are the chances of getting shot after complying vs. fighting the cops? I'm thinking non-compliance gets you shot way more often.
This post was edited on 10/12/22 at 1:59 pm
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
125191 posts
Posted on 10/12/22 at 10:40 am to
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They dropped the charges for political reasons as damage control. In my opinion, based on how it's being reported, it is very likely it was stolen. I'm ok with that being demonstrated untrue. is it? You should care. The media is trying to spin this up to leave us defenseless against their brownshirts. The facts matter.


They dropped charges that did not include the charge that you’re bitching on about with no evidence. The police recommended charges. The charges did not include a stolen car.

I am inclined to believe Mr. Cantu had previous run-ins with the law as we have not heard that he did not have previous run-ins with the law.

But you’re asserting things with a complete absence of evidence.
Posted by David_DJS
Member since Aug 2005
21768 posts
Posted on 10/12/22 at 10:40 am to
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Did you know there are really crooked doctors - and bankers - and preachers - and school teachers - and airline pilots - and journalists - and morticians - and & - & - & - - - -

Do you get this outraged every time one of them goes off the rails - and denounce the ENTIRE PROFESSION????

JFC
Posted by Sam Quint
Member since Sep 2022
8046 posts
Posted on 10/12/22 at 10:41 am to
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I am inclined to believe Mr. Cantu had previous run-ins with the law as we have not heard that he did not have previous run-ins with the law.

and whether or not he had previous run ins with the law is immaterial.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
125191 posts
Posted on 10/12/22 at 10:41 am to
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What do you think are the chances of getting shot after complying vs. fighting the cops?


Complying with cops greatly reduces your chances of getting shot. It does not reduce them to zero.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
125191 posts
Posted on 10/12/22 at 10:42 am to
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and whether or not he had previous run ins with the law is immaterial.


It is immaterial to the case. It is completely material to the narratives we get in our press.
Posted by Sam Quint
Member since Sep 2022
8046 posts
Posted on 10/12/22 at 10:43 am to
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It is completely material to the narratives we get in our press.

why?
Posted by Open Your Eyes
Member since Nov 2012
10334 posts
Posted on 10/12/22 at 10:45 am to
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I see NOBODY defending THIS 'piece of shite

Then learn to read better.

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you know there are really crooked doctors - and bankers - and preachers - and school teachers - and airline pilots - and journalists - and morticians - and & - & - & - - - -

Which ones of those professions have the ability to kill and/or jail people with complete impunity just by saying they “feared for their life”?

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you get this outraged every time one of them goes off the rails - and denounce the ENTIRE PROFESSION????

Do those other professions thin blue line each other just about every time one of their members goes off the rails like cops do? I’ve seen plenty of doctors put their reputations and livelihoods on the line by going against the covid narratives. Show me your examples of cops calling out the pieces of shite that murdered Daniel shaver and Tamir rice, or violated the mccloskeys constitutional rights. I’ll be waiting.
Posted by squid_hunt
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2021
11272 posts
Posted on 10/12/22 at 10:46 am to
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They dropped charges that did not include the charge that you’re bitching on about with no evidence. The police recommended charges. The charges did not include a stolen car.

The initial engagement was about mismatched plates. The linked article states that it's unclear whether the car was stolen because it was originally believed it was. They didn't answer the question and I have a suspicion it's because the car was indeed stolen. I am asserting that these facts matter and nothing more. All your clownish attacks on my character are to deflect from those facts. Was the car stolen?
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
125191 posts
Posted on 10/12/22 at 10:47 am to
Really?

“Erik was a good boy who never did anything wrong. He was just eating a cheeseburger and got shot. You, too, could just be eating a cheeseburger and get shot.”

Versus (completely hypothetical)

“Erik has had a probation officer since the age of 12. His latest offense that he went to juvenile court involved stealing a neighbor’s motorcycle. He was involved in a chase with police two nights prior.”

You don’t think that matters to the narrative?
Posted by Sam Quint
Member since Sep 2022
8046 posts
Posted on 10/12/22 at 10:51 am to
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Really?

“Erik was a good boy who never did anything wrong. He was just eating a cheeseburger and got shot. You, too, could just be eating a cheeseburger and get shot.”

Versus (completely hypothetical)

“Erik has had a probation officer since the age of 12. His latest offense that he went to juvenile court involved stealing a neighbor’s motorcycle. He was involved in a chase with police two nights prior.”

You don’t think that matters to the narrative?

not really. the cop wasnt in danger, and he shot the kid for no reason. doesnt matter what the backstory is really.
Posted by Open Your Eyes
Member since Nov 2012
10334 posts
Posted on 10/12/22 at 10:53 am to
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just want to know if the car was stolen

I just want to know why you’re a coward that can’t answer a direct question.

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The only reason that would upset yoh is because you are an irrational ideoligically driven douchebag who believes all cops are bad and inherently guilty.

Bootlickers are of sub-human intelligence. Stupid people don’t upset me.

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you still don't understand my explanation, that's on you

There is nothing difficult to understand bout your explanation. You’re just not intelligent enough to understand why your explanation is not relevant.

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Y ou bunch of reflexively hysterical women are cracking me up with your inability to make any distinction, but that's your problem

Sees story about cop lying about shooting non-threatening, unarmed 17 year old in a car, automatically defaults to protecting cop and assuming 17 year old did something to justify being shot, calls other people reflexively hysterical.

It’s too bad you’re not intelligent enough to understand irony.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
125191 posts
Posted on 10/12/22 at 10:57 am to
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not really. the cop wasnt in danger, and he shot the kid for no reason. doesnt matter what the backstory is really.


It absolutely matters to the press and public narrative. It’s wild that anyone would pretend otherwise.

I agree that it has zero bearing on the court case (as it should) and that the cop’s actions appear indefensible at this point.
Posted by tketaco
Sunnyside, Houston
Member since Jan 2010
21482 posts
Posted on 10/12/22 at 11:00 am to
That video went a lot slower than previously posted. The other one had him straight pumping rounds the moment the driver turned inward.
Posted by SagginInRefelct
Member since Oct 2022
77 posts
Posted on 10/12/22 at 11:01 am to
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..but that doesnt mean he didnt have a right to approach or question the kid


Yes, it means exactly that. Cop had NO right unless he suspected a guy eating a burger broke the law, period
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
125191 posts
Posted on 10/12/22 at 11:01 am to
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The officer thought the car was the same one that evaded him the night before when he attempted to stop the vehicle as the registered license plate didn’t match the vehicle.


You might want to read that all again carefully. The car he attempted to the stop the night before didn’t have a matching plate.

That is not connected to this case without further evidence. The police initially charged Cantu with assault and evading arrest. If they had evidence the car was stolen, they would almost have certainly included that charge with the other two.

You’re decompensating.
Posted by Open Your Eyes
Member since Nov 2012
10334 posts
Posted on 10/12/22 at 11:03 am to
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San Antonio officer who shot teen at McDonald's is arrested on two aggravated assault charges

“Nothing that that officer did that night were in accordance with our training or our policies," McManus said Monday.

McManus on Tuesday said that Brennand was certified to patrol alone, but that the shooting was "unjustified, both administratively and criminally."


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