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re: 17-year old Dutch girl and rape survivor legally euthanized
Posted on 6/5/19 at 7:13 am to CollegeFBRules
Posted on 6/5/19 at 7:13 am to CollegeFBRules
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Government gets to decide who gets to live and die. Welcome to civilized society.
Are you serious?
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Posted on 6/5/19 at 7:14 am to CollegeFBRules
Will there be someone willing to “assist” in every case? What if there isn’t?
Posted on 6/5/19 at 7:16 am to Nguyener
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Are you serious?
Yes, I am serious. And while I know you’re embarking on a “Oh my god, this bitch wants the government to decide life and death in everything!” mental space, when we grant government the power to enact a death penalty, we give it that right. It’s the only entity that gets to decide whether or not murder is self-defense or murder was murder. It also gets to decide whether we get to be free or spend our lives in prison.
Don’t be disingenuous and act like you don’t know what I mean.
Posted on 6/5/19 at 7:17 am to Y.A. Tittle
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Will there be someone willing to “assist” in every case?
You really think doctors won’t be willing to do this?
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What if there isn’t?
Somewhere in the world, some doctor will be willing to assist.
This post was edited on 6/5/19 at 8:03 pm
Posted on 6/5/19 at 7:20 am to CollegeFBRules
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It’s the only entity that gets to decide whether or not murder is self-defense or murder was murder. It also gets to decide whether we get to be free or spend our lives in prison.
Thy government doesn't decide that. An independent jury of your peers does. And I don't believe in the death penalty.
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while I know you’re embarking on a “Oh my god, this bitch wants the government to decide life and death in everything!”
That's not where I was going. You should be extremely careful and cynical about any power granted to the government.
This post was edited on 6/5/19 at 7:25 am
Posted on 6/5/19 at 7:26 am to RedStickBR
It clarifies the tragedy of Rape and its long term destructive experience. Very sad indeed.
PTSD can be extremely challenging to live with and can impede one's ability to grow and mature without continued suffering over ones life.
Periodic depressive experiences with PTSD are to be expected but most experience enough relief to let go of suicide as an alternative, but still there is a percentage who consider this daily as a solution to the tragedy they experience daily.
PTSD can be extremely challenging to live with and can impede one's ability to grow and mature without continued suffering over ones life.
Periodic depressive experiences with PTSD are to be expected but most experience enough relief to let go of suicide as an alternative, but still there is a percentage who consider this daily as a solution to the tragedy they experience daily.
Posted on 6/5/19 at 7:47 am to CollegeFBRules
quote:Just an incredibly sad story. There may be more to it than has surfaced though. e.g., She had a long-term feeding tube in place in one of the photos. So either she refused to eat or she was suffering from something in addition to depression/ptsd.
While I hope the girl went through extensive counseling
Posted on 6/5/19 at 7:49 am to RedStickBR
In the US if a child can legally decide its gender at young’s ages, then they should be able. To decide whether or not they want to commit suicide.
With that said, I don’t believe they should have either right until 18.
With that said, I don’t believe they should have either right until 18.
Posted on 6/5/19 at 7:55 am to Ollieoxenfree99
quote:The 6th commandment.
There is no law that says they must live it.
Posted on 6/5/19 at 7:58 am to CollegeFBRules
quote:God can tell us all what to do with our bodies and He has. We can relay that message.
Who are you to tell someone what they can and can’t do with their life or body?
Posted on 6/5/19 at 8:03 am to FooManChoo
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God can tell us all what to do with our bodies and He has.
I’m agnostic.
Posted on 6/5/19 at 8:07 am to CollegeFBRules
quote:Everyone knows there is a God and our lives bear this out every day. Those who do not profess God suppress the knowledge of Him.
I’m agnostic.
God’s law applies to everyone whether you want it to or not.
Posted on 6/5/19 at 8:44 am to CollegeFBRules
I hate to hear that about the young lady, but that may be the route for libs when Trump wins in 2020.
Posted on 6/5/19 at 8:57 am to westide
ummm. this is 100% fake news.
Posted on 6/5/19 at 8:58 am to RedStickBR
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I once read a book called the Devil’s Picnic by Taras Grescoe that, among many other discussions, makes a pretty good libertarian argument for legal euthanization. If you think about it, and regardless of any moral considerations, it’s the ultimate expression of individual liberty.
That said, 17 seems entirely too young for this. The U.S. doesn’t even let 20 year olds drink a beer. Surprisingly, 17 is actually on the older end insofar as the right for Dutch kids to be euthanized goes:
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Children as young as 12 can legally seek to be euthanized in the Netherlands, but a doctor must first determine that the patient’s pain is unbearable before they can be accepted.
LINK
I don't expect the OP to ACTUALLY read up on this case but she wasn't euthanized. She stopped eating and drinking and the doctors finally after this had been going on for years decided to not forcibly feed her anymore. The officials spent years trying to help this girl but in the end she really did want to go.
Posted on 6/5/19 at 9:06 am to RedStickBR
This is a real slippery slope.
We're already allowing mothers to kill their unborn babies because of "convenience". And now we're extending euthanasia long beyond end-of-life situations to where we can pay someone to kill us because we're too cowardly to do it ourselves.
What's next? Mandatory euthanasia at 30 in the Carousel?
We're already allowing mothers to kill their unborn babies because of "convenience". And now we're extending euthanasia long beyond end-of-life situations to where we can pay someone to kill us because we're too cowardly to do it ourselves.
What's next? Mandatory euthanasia at 30 in the Carousel?
Posted on 6/5/19 at 9:08 am to Quidam65
quote:upvote for the obscure SciFi reference.
What's next? Mandatory euthanasia at 30 in the Carousel?
Posted on 6/5/19 at 9:09 am to Quidam65
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What's next? Mandatory euthanasia at 30 in the Carousel?
Logan's Run?
Posted on 6/5/19 at 9:17 am to NoisyNinja79
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Logan's Run?
Winner. And most of it was filmed here in DFW.
Posted on 6/5/19 at 9:18 am to AggieHank86
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upvote for the obscure SciFi reference
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