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16th, 17th or 19th Amendment: which is the worst?
Posted on 1/13/19 at 8:38 am
Posted on 1/13/19 at 8:38 am
And, if you could snap your finger and one of them would be erased from history - never to have existed, in any form - which would you dispose of?
For me, it's the 17th. Destroyed the federal system by removing the influence of the states on the national government and is the main explanation for the explosion of federal power in the 20th Century.
For me, it's the 17th. Destroyed the federal system by removing the influence of the states on the national government and is the main explanation for the explosion of federal power in the 20th Century.
This post was edited on 1/13/19 at 9:11 am
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Posted on 1/13/19 at 8:42 am to udtiger
16th, easily.
Posted on 1/13/19 at 8:42 am to udtiger
income taxes are criminal. our founding fathers would have killed those who suggested it in their day.
Posted on 1/13/19 at 8:43 am to udtiger
Are you kidding? Its the 19th by a landslide.
Posted on 1/13/19 at 8:45 am to udtiger
16th easily. Income tax was the single largest factor in the explosion of the size of the central government.
Posted on 1/13/19 at 8:47 am to AlterDWI
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Are you kidding? Its the 19th by a landslide.
The right of citizens of the United States to vote shall not be denied or abridged by the United States or by any State on account of sex.
Posted on 1/13/19 at 8:50 am to bmy
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Ban?
No.
Adding an illogical, emotion-driven element to the voting population is the reason for a lot of the current ills in society.
This post was edited on 1/13/19 at 8:53 am
Posted on 1/13/19 at 8:50 am to GumboPot
I'm going with 16th as well.
But none of them were well thought out.
But none of them were well thought out.
Posted on 1/13/19 at 8:53 am to udtiger
17 for me
Posted on 1/13/19 at 8:53 am to bmy
Ban?
The 19th amendment was the first wave of feminism which has been a total disaster for women(and men) in our society.
The 19th amendment was the first wave of feminism which has been a total disaster for women(and men) in our society.
Posted on 1/13/19 at 8:58 am to udtiger
All are god awful. Woman, and some men, vote purely on emotion and feels. Income tax is a fricking criminal joke, and the 17th further nurtured the States.
Posted on 1/13/19 at 8:59 am to td01241
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All are god awful.
I know. It's a tough decision.
Posted on 1/13/19 at 9:01 am to udtiger
All of them are basically equally bad in their own right.
Read the text of the 16th amendment though and tell me how fricking ominous this sounds.
frick this. Did it ever go in front of SCOTUS?
The 17th has caused a lot of the major issues of our political sphere nowadays, the founders did not envision that way of the Senate being elected. And it was a further attack on the states’ empowerment.
And the 19th amendment has been a massive fricking nuisance on society whole.
Of all those equally god awful amendments the 16th affects everybody equally though so I would go with the 16th.
Read the text of the 16th amendment though and tell me how fricking ominous this sounds.
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The Congress shall have power to lay and collect taxes on incomes, from whatever source derived, without apportionment among the several states, and without regard to any census or enumeration.
frick this. Did it ever go in front of SCOTUS?
The 17th has caused a lot of the major issues of our political sphere nowadays, the founders did not envision that way of the Senate being elected. And it was a further attack on the states’ empowerment.
And the 19th amendment has been a massive fricking nuisance on society whole.
Of all those equally god awful amendments the 16th affects everybody equally though so I would go with the 16th.
This post was edited on 1/13/19 at 9:02 am
Posted on 1/13/19 at 9:02 am to AlterDWI
Posted on 1/13/19 at 9:09 am to bmy
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bmy
Posted on 1/13/19 at 9:12 am to TigerFanInSouthland
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frick this. Did it ever go in front of SCOTUS?
Actually, it was necessary because the SCOTUS held an income tax enacted during the Civil War was unconstitutional.
I am still at a loss as to how a progressive income tax passes constitutional muster.
Posted on 1/13/19 at 9:23 am to udtiger
The 17th is my pick as well.
The abuse of the 16th wouldn't be going on (or at least not be as bad) without the lack of direct input by the states that the 17th provided (ie: if you remove the 17th then the 16th may not even matter, so to my point of view it's the only one that could have the effect of removing two).
The abuse of the 16th wouldn't be going on (or at least not be as bad) without the lack of direct input by the states that the 17th provided (ie: if you remove the 17th then the 16th may not even matter, so to my point of view it's the only one that could have the effect of removing two).
Posted on 1/13/19 at 9:43 am to bmy
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The right of citizens of the United States to vote shall not be denied or abridged by the United States or by any State on account of sex.
BOOM!!...Sex....not gender! There is nothing unconstitutional about barring trannys, etc, from voting!!!!
Posted on 1/13/19 at 9:44 am to udtiger
Why do you hate the constitution?
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