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11/4/2008 Obama just won & someone tells you by 2024 Dems would become the party for war

Posted on 10/7/24 at 1:02 pm
Posted by stout
Porte du Lafitte
Member since Sep 2006
179616 posts
Posted on 10/7/24 at 1:02 pm
They would also tell you the Dems would celebrate having endorsements from the Cheney family.

What would you have said?

I only bring up Obama because he droned more people than any POTUS in history while the MSM ran cover for him which IMO was the start of the Dems shifting to the party for war
Posted by bgtiger
Prairieville
Member since Dec 2004
11923 posts
Posted on 10/7/24 at 1:06 pm to
I've been blown away by the rapid transition of the D party from pacifists to warmongering. They are literally following the George Bush/PNAC Doctrine to a tee.
Posted by Lsupimp
Ersatz Amerika-97.6% phony & fake
Member since Nov 2003
85372 posts
Posted on 10/7/24 at 1:06 pm to
Or that Republican neocons would merge with Democrats.Or that the Republican base would become anti- interventionists. It’s been rather astonishing.
Posted by Mushroom1968
Member since Jun 2023
5293 posts
Posted on 10/7/24 at 1:10 pm to
They were moving toward being for war but Trump made them go all in. Syrian troops removal upset both democrats and RINOS. Let’s be fair, Trump party isn’t the R party of 10 years ago either and I’m thankful for that.
Posted by stout
Porte du Lafitte
Member since Sep 2006
179616 posts
Posted on 10/7/24 at 1:13 pm to
quote:

Let’s be fair, Trump party isn’t the R party of 10 years ago either and I’m thankful for that.


There's a huge difference between running away from the GOPe vs switching from pacifist to warmongering
Posted by Big4SALTbro
Member since Jun 2019
22735 posts
Posted on 10/7/24 at 1:14 pm to
I would have had a good laugh if you told me the Dems would be supporting dick Cheney
Posted by dnm3305
Member since Feb 2009
16036 posts
Posted on 10/7/24 at 1:17 pm to
quote:

Or that Republican neocons would merge with Democrats


This has always been the case, it's just shamelessly out in the open and in your face now.

2 parties has always been an illusion
Posted by imelling
Member since Oct 2024
2 posts
Posted on 10/7/24 at 2:09 pm to
I don’t understand your post saying Dems are switching from doves to hawks??? Well “warmongers”.
Why are we seemingly supporting absolutely known Terroristic countries such as Syria and Iran. This administration are traitors to our country. Laws were passed after 9/11 forbidding this country to support State Sponsored Terrorism countries of which we seem to now give a pass to do anything they want including the use of nuclear weapons against our allies. Seems we actually help them instead.
Radical Muslims’ doctrine is to rid the world of “infidels”. That’s defined as any person who not only isn’t Muslim but isn’t Muslim enough to them. They’ve so corrupted the religion to mean anything they want it to mean.
They won’t be satisfied until they wipe out every Jew, Christian, well anyone that doesn’t believe their “religious” insanity.
I actually don’t think they follow any religion. It’s just used as an excuse to justify the worst acts/crimes they commit.
Really feels like too many people in this country have forgotten 9/11.
We have become so polarized politically that no one can work together.
Wasn’t like that on 9/11 and up to 8-9 years following this horrific attack and then the same year inhalational anthrax was sent through the U.S. postal service killing people.
Both the left and right worked together.
I hope people will wake up & realize what a dangerous position this country now is in. I’m far more concerned now than right after 9/11.
We are actually importing terrorists in the guise of misplaced persons, civil rights infringed, human rights, religious freedom, poor, the many reasons this country was a sanctuary is now being used against us with this administration we have now.
Biden/Harris are withholding support/weapons/ seemingly any help at all when we are allied w/Israel. We seem to be supporting Iran, Syria, Afghanistan, and most any other country rife with terrorism and lawlessness. The very countries by law we are not to have anything to do with. No trade, no support, nothing unless it’s to go after their ability to stop supporting terrorism. These are enemy countries run by radical “religious” terrorists.
What excuse is there to not support our strongest Allies (Israel). They would and have supported the USA. Thats kinda what an alliance does. Sorry for the sarcasm but it’s long past ridiculous, it’s illegal to aid State Sponsored Terrorist countries yet we are.
I don’t know how someone would vote for 4 more years minimum of this nonsense. Nor do I understand why any other allied country would trust us anymore if Harris is voted into office.
I have always thought American’s are pretty darn intelligent and will vote in the right person and party. This should be a slam dunk in voting for Republicans this time. We’ve seen enough damage from Biden/Harris.
Posted by Mushroom1968
Member since Jun 2023
5293 posts
Posted on 10/7/24 at 2:12 pm to
I 100% agree
Posted by Westbank111
Armpit of America
Member since Sep 2013
4586 posts
Posted on 10/7/24 at 4:26 pm to
on that day i started preparing for this very day.

I paid very close attention, investigated on my own, and much critical thinking of what was going on. AND IT WAS THAT ELECTION NOGHT SPEECH where Hussein said “we are going to fundamentally.change the United States of America”,

It was that Moment and the overall race is when I became WOKE (as well as reading the Creature from Jeckyll Island), but it was that time period when i realized our country was under siege, that the enemy was within.

but unfortunately. for a majorly of patriots, it took longer for the lightbulbs to go off (especially when DJT exposed it all).

but we should babe been standing our ground long before and now we are decades behind them trying to establish a true opposition to the Tyranny, and the clock is running out, we must get it together SOON!
Posted by Toomer Deplorable
Team Bitter Clinger
Member since May 2020
23594 posts
Posted on 10/7/24 at 4:54 pm to
This brings to mind Pat Buchanan’s tenure as the favored house conservative at MSNBC. As a paleocon, Buchanan was vehemently opposed to the Bush Regime’s excursion into Iraq.

Since the end of the Cold War, Buchanan had been consistent on this matter. Buchanan indeed was equally critical of NATO’s intervention in the Bosnian War during the Clinton era.

Knowing full well of Buchanan’s non-interventionist stance on this issue, MSNBC hired Buchanan as a commentator in the lead up to the Iraq War. Not surprisingly, Buchanan was a vociferous critic of the propaganda campaign leading up to the invasion of Iraq and accurately predicted the quagmire that eventually transpired.

During Bush’s 2nd term, public support for the war faltered and the so-called “surge” increasingly became a political albatross for Republicans across the board. Not coincidentally, Buchanan became a darling of MSNBC and was featured prominently in promotional spots on the network leading up to the 2008 election.

Yet when Obama was elected — running on a platform of extracting the U.S. from Iraq mind you — these wars of Empire continued. Buchanan predictably was a strident critic of the Obama Regime’s continuation of these interventionist wars of perpetuity.

Suddenly, it was discovered that Buchanan’s obstreperous criticism of Obama’s foreign policy agenda was based on Obama’s race. Buchanan was thus suspended and eventually fired from the network on the basis of Buchanan’s new found racism.

In a similar fashion, anti-war activist Cindy Sheehan — once a darling of the MSM and the political left because of her criticism of the Bush Regime — went MIA after Obama was elected. Isn’t it funny how this all worked out?



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