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?? from a Military Strategic Idiot = me - How can we protect a carrier in Suez canal?
Posted on 5/11/19 at 7:16 am
Posted on 5/11/19 at 7:16 am
Seriously - a Carrier Group is a massive national asset - how can it be protected from a well planned attack from land based rocket launchers while it is in the canal?
How long does it take to make the transit to maneuverable waters?
I'm too dumb to do the research on this, but have always wondered about that obvious 'trap.'
Thanks for your sympathy.
How long does it take to make the transit to maneuverable waters?
I'm too dumb to do the research on this, but have always wondered about that obvious 'trap.'
Thanks for your sympathy.
This post was edited on 5/11/19 at 7:18 am
Posted on 5/11/19 at 7:17 am to ChineseBandit58
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Howl can we protect a carrier in Suez canal?
Stop barking orders at us!
Posted on 5/11/19 at 7:19 am to ChineseBandit58
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I'm too dumb to do the research on this, but have always wondered about that obvious 'trap.'
I was wondering the same thing.
Posted on 5/11/19 at 7:19 am to ChineseBandit58
The Suez Canal zone is pretty heavily guarded. It takes about a day to transit through.
Posted on 5/11/19 at 7:22 am to Saint Alfonzo
Additionally, I’d suspect the amount of damage you could do with a single (or multiple) RPGs would be mostly cosmetic.
Posted on 5/11/19 at 7:23 am to ChineseBandit58
Attacking our fleet in the canal or anywhere else would be like sticking your dick in a hornets nest then lighting yourself on fire with gas.
Posted on 5/11/19 at 7:28 am to ChineseBandit58
I would imagine that the massive response to an attack on our battle group would deter most sane people. The B1Bs deploying makes me think that something big is about to happen.
Posted on 5/11/19 at 7:28 am to LetsgoGamecocks
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Attacking our fleet in the canal or anywhere else would be like sticking your dick in a hornets nest then lighting yourself on fire with gas.
Well obviously - but I am worried about rogue elements - Seems like we would have to have pretty much unlimited air access for a large swath of territory on either side of the canal during the transit.
Not really worried about RPGs but possible launches of more sophistical rockets from support vehicles in the desert.
I know there must be some 'understandings' between us and the rulers in the region, but I really don't trust devoted Islamists to honor these agreements when they decide it is time to start the global jihad.
Posted on 5/11/19 at 7:29 am to LetsgoGamecocks
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Attacking our fleet in the canal or anywhere else would be like sticking your dick in a hornets nest then lighting yourself on fire with gas.
This is accurate.
Posted on 5/11/19 at 7:31 am to bencoleman
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I would imagine that the massive response to an attack on our battle group would deter most sane people
That is what I worry about.
Perhaps the satraps in the region put out the word - NOT HERE!! NOT NOW!!! - with their beheading crew willing to preemotly reinforce that message.
Must work. We do it. So far so good.
This post was edited on 5/11/19 at 7:32 am
Posted on 5/11/19 at 7:31 am to LetsgoGamecocks
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Attacking our fleet in the canal or anywhere else would be like sticking your dick in a hornets nest then lighting yourself on fire with gas
Yeah especially with Bolton in the Trumps ear. (Which I'm ok with.)
This is a "kind reminder" to the area of what we have. No need to be a coward like obama.
Posted on 5/11/19 at 7:33 am to ChineseBandit58
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obvious 'trap.'
Posted on 5/11/19 at 7:33 am to ChineseBandit58
I’m no military expert either. But I’m pretty sure that the carrier group can protect itself from most any threat over there.
Hell, I imagine a carrier group could take over most of the countries over there.
Hell, I imagine a carrier group could take over most of the countries over there.
Posted on 5/11/19 at 7:33 am to ChineseBandit58
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attack from land based rocket launchers while it is in the canal?
I guess they could attack us, but they wouldn't do it again.
Posted on 5/11/19 at 7:33 am to TOSOV
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No need to be a coward like obama.
Well - there is that advantage - dragging your nuts over the pip-squaks and making them like it
Good strategy for a classic Western movie. And I still enjoy seeing the good guys finally assert their strength.
Posted on 5/11/19 at 7:36 am to LetsgoGamecocks
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Attacking our fleet in the canal or anywhere else would be like sticking your dick in a hornets nest then lighting yourself on fire with gas.
I have no idea if this is true (I’m sure it is) but that is the funniest description I’ve heard in a while.
Posted on 5/11/19 at 7:37 am to Dead End
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I guess they could attack us, but they wouldn't do it again.
That has to be the only deterrence - Everyone there must know that your country would cease to exist within an hour of any coordinated attack coming from their area.
I still worry about a population who think a guaranteed way to heaven is to do just that however.
And I worry more about when those leaders discover that they are going down anyway thru more peaceful applications of our military force and ideological superiority.
Posted on 5/11/19 at 7:50 am to ChineseBandit58
It's not the carrier that an enemy worries about, it's the attack nuclear subs u dont see that keeps it safe
Posted on 5/11/19 at 7:53 am to ChineseBandit58
The carrier hardly ever transmits by itself. Usually there would be 2 destroyers and a cruiser accompanying them. Next, all ships would have scat teams on the ready, with crew serve weapons manned and ready so probably 20 or more M-240's along with a couple M2's on each ship. Along the canal itself are Egyptian security forces. It's pretty cool seeing all of their track mounted weapons, rockets, etc. Security around the carrier during a transit is pretty tight.
Posted on 5/11/19 at 8:00 am to ChineseBandit58
Well, the carrier does have its air cover protecting it, so that would eliminate any vehicle-launched anti-ship missile.
Anyone with any interest in keeping the canal open also wouldn’t sink an aircraft carrier in it. So there’s that, too.
There aren’t many powers out there with the punch to take down an aircraft carrier. Whoever did would be quickly identified and removed from the map.
It wouldn’t be the smartest thing to try. Sure. The carrier is vulnerable, but even if you managed to touch it, what then?
Anyone with any interest in keeping the canal open also wouldn’t sink an aircraft carrier in it. So there’s that, too.
There aren’t many powers out there with the punch to take down an aircraft carrier. Whoever did would be quickly identified and removed from the map.
It wouldn’t be the smartest thing to try. Sure. The carrier is vulnerable, but even if you managed to touch it, what then?
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