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Pro-Obamacare LA Times Article brings the lulz

Posted on 3/31/14 at 4:47 pm
Posted by Lsut81
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Posted on 3/31/14 at 4:47 pm
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Against all odds and expectations, enrollments in health plans qualified under the Affordable Care Act are surging Monday toward -- and maybe beyond -- the 7-million figure projected by the Congressional Budget Office before Oct. 1, when the open-enrollment period began. The deadline for starting enrollment applications for 2014 plans is midnight Monday.

The surge is creating a big problem for the "train wreck" narrative of Republican opponents of the ACA, who have been holding out hope for Obamacare's utter failure. So the excuse-making has begun.

Before we examine those excuses: You will recall that the budget office reduced its projection of enrollments on individual insurance exchanges to 6 million earlier this year to account for the botched launch of healthcare.gov, the federal enrollment website. Enrollments blew past that mark days ago. If exchange enrollments meet or exceed the original projection of 7 million despite the loss of some six weeks in website functionality in October and November, that would be a testament to the public's latent desire for effective healthcare coverage.



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Posted by CptBengal
BR Baby
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 3/31/14 at 4:51 pm to
Goebbels would be proud
Posted by bigblake
Member since Jun 2011
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Posted on 3/31/14 at 4:52 pm to
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Posted by Tigerlaff
FIGHTING out of the Carencro Sonic
Member since Jan 2010
20882 posts
Posted on 3/31/14 at 4:57 pm to
Liberals cannot understand this. Even if the law ends up being good, which I do not believe will happen, it was done without popular support and pisses a lot of people off. Some of us just don't want to be told what to buy and don't appreciate the state coming in to babysit.
Posted by Lsut81
Member since Jun 2005
80173 posts
Posted on 3/31/14 at 4:59 pm to
There is so much falsehood and misinformation in that article it is fricking hilarious...
Posted by The Easter Bunny
Minnesota
Member since Jan 2005
45569 posts
Posted on 3/31/14 at 5:14 pm to
This morning on CNBC I saw a guy say they have over 9 million signed up.
Posted by Scoop
RIP Scoop
Member since Sep 2005
44583 posts
Posted on 3/31/14 at 5:20 pm to
A snippet:

quote:

Of the nearly 442,000 Floridians who have enrolled to buy health insurance through federal exchanges, nine of 10 qualify for subsidies
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Where do the subsidies (a cute word for other people's money paying for your health insurance) come from?

I have employee provided health insurance. My out of pocket for my kids and I which includes dental and a lot of riders is around $250 a month.

My insurance under Obamacare would be $800 a month just for basic coverage. Is that where the money is supposed to come from? It isn't going to come from people like me because I have a good job, make good middle class money and have employer provided insurance.

This entire thing is just a cluster frick.

What is the funding source for the subsidies?

Posted by CC
Western NY
Member since Feb 2004
14865 posts
Posted on 3/31/14 at 5:32 pm to
It's a shell game. They're taking money out of Medicare to partially subsidize the same people's Obamacare. They were also hoping that young, healthy people would join and overpay because it's the cool thing to do and further subsidize the old and indigent.
Posted by PuntBamaPunt
Member since Nov 2010
10070 posts
Posted on 3/31/14 at 5:39 pm to
I've seen it mentioned on this site numerous times that the masses are idiots so why should we give their opinion any weight? These dipshits thought the PATRIOT Act was a good idea. The fact you would still be upset if this change actually helped people is telling.

(i think it'll be a disaster and one step closer to single payer for those keeping score)
Posted by Rickety Cricket
Premium Member
Member since Aug 2007
46883 posts
Posted on 3/31/14 at 5:42 pm to
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LA Times

Is whitehouse.gov operating under a new name or something?
Posted by NC_Tigah
Carolinas
Member since Sep 2003
124039 posts
Posted on 3/31/14 at 5:42 pm to
quote:

Pro-Obamacare LA Times Article


Hope they continue!
Posted by Rickety Cricket
Premium Member
Member since Aug 2007
46883 posts
Posted on 3/31/14 at 5:43 pm to
And I'm glad we had to blow up the entire health care industry so those 7 million could get cheap plans. Totally worth it.
Posted by SettleDown
Everywhere
Member since Nov 2013
1333 posts
Posted on 3/31/14 at 5:43 pm to
quote:

Of the nearly 442,000 Floridians who have enrolled to buy health insurance through federal exchanges, nine of 10 qualify for subsidies


So. Put another way. The whole concept of the bill as described has completely blown up. The only people signing up are the ones who are getting other people's money to do it but, the source of other people's money(premiums from full payers) has not arrived.

So. Guess where that shortfall will come from.
Posted by jlc05
Member since Nov 2005
32894 posts
Posted on 3/31/14 at 5:46 pm to
And 6 out of 10 can afford to pay a mere $100 per day!
Posted by KCT
Psalm 23:5
Member since Feb 2010
38911 posts
Posted on 3/31/14 at 5:51 pm to
CBS just aired an interview with Obama, and allowed him to assert that Obamacare would come close to reaching their enrollment projection of 7 million signups. The CBS reporter just sat there and allowed it to stand. No follow-up questions, no objective analysis of how many of those enrollees were previously uninsured.

This has to be one of the biggest shams ever. I mean, how can a professional news organization really pretend not to know that 5 million people had lost their insurance because of Obamacare?

One more indication that 90% of the media will ignore the truth in favor of falsely portraying Obama as a successful president.
Posted by NC_Tigah
Carolinas
Member since Sep 2003
124039 posts
Posted on 3/31/14 at 5:55 pm to
quote:

And I'm glad we had to blow up the entire health care industry so those 7 million could get cheap plans. Totally worth it.
3-4.5 million of those lost better plans.
Posted by TigerTattle
Out of Town
Member since Sep 2007
6623 posts
Posted on 3/31/14 at 6:44 pm to
quote:

that would be a testament to the public's latent desire for effective healthcare coverage
No, it would be a testament to the fact that the 5 or 6 million people whose insurance was canceled by Obamacare were forced to purchase coverage they didn't want or need

and that citizens are being extorted by their own government: buy our insurance or we'll fine you

and that the freeloaders flocked to the website to get their freebies and subsidies


But "Oh, look, everybody wants Obamacare!"
Posted by Mac
Forked Island, USA
Member since Nov 2007
14658 posts
Posted on 3/31/14 at 6:54 pm to
Are they still counting people as signed up even if they haven't paid/pulled the trigger and have merely created an account and selected a plan on the website?
Posted by Tigah in the ATL
Atlanta
Member since Feb 2005
27539 posts
Posted on 3/31/14 at 7:00 pm to
quote:

And I'm glad we had to blow up the entire health care industry
what?
Posted by Sentrius
Fort Rozz
Member since Jun 2011
64757 posts
Posted on 3/31/14 at 7:01 pm to


It's like they don't care their bias is shining as bright as the sun.
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