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Wood expansion question
Posted on 3/21/18 at 3:58 pm
Posted on 3/21/18 at 3:58 pm
I'm building a table out of walnut. It's going to have braces at the bottom. I would like to recess a 1x4 brace into a 3x3 leg. Is this ok to do? or could it goes problems down the road. Worried about wood expansion.
Posted on 3/21/18 at 4:20 pm to LSUfreak1459
Wood will shrink or expand depending on the moisture level when built and the moisture level where the table is used. If the wood has been dried and you store it inside it will be stable and should not expand or contract. If you build with green wood, it will shrink as it dries over a long a year or two until the wood stabilizes
Posted on 3/21/18 at 4:47 pm to wickowick
What wick said. Do you know the moisture of the wood? In these parts, between 7-8% is good.
Posted on 3/21/18 at 4:51 pm to LSUfreak1459
Are you saying you’re planning to mortise the 1x4 into the leg?
Posted on 3/21/18 at 5:11 pm to TheDrunkenTigah
It was kiln dried. It’s not green but I’m not sure the moisture content. Haven’t picked it up yet but I’ll check it. Not a mortis and tenon joint. The picture he showed me had the brace screwed to the outside of the leg. But he wants it recessed into the leg. See the link for an example. Table
Posted on 3/21/18 at 5:27 pm to LSUfreak1459
I see what you mean. I think it would be fine. If you’re really worried about it, trim the notch just so that it doesn’t take much force to put the 1x4 in. Not loose, just to where you don’t have to hit it with a mallet to get it set. KD wood is more likely to shrink than anything though, like wick said.
Posted on 3/21/18 at 5:35 pm to TheDrunkenTigah
quote:This.
I think it would be fine.
I've built a lot out of pine that wasn't as dry as i'd have liked, and after several years there is no real noticeable separation. Plus, that style of furniture isn't perfect to begin with.
I would be more leary if i was building something more traditional with precise joints.
Posted on 3/21/18 at 6:09 pm to TheDrunkenTigah
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KD wood is more likely to shrink than anything though, like wick said.
Any wood not already at equilibrium will be more likely to shrink if you're using it indoors in an air conditioned environment. KD wood less so than air dried wood. It all depends on the relative humidity of the air indoors vs the moisture content of the wood. Ideally, you let your wood come to equilibrium in the room it will be in as a finished product. Often that is not achievable in reality.
Here is a good article on wood shrinkage. https://www.thisiscarpentry.com/2010/09/03/moisture-content-wood-movement/
Here is a good graphic from that article.
ETA: Relative Humidity in your house (assuming AC) will likely be 30-50%, probably closer to 50 than 30 most times unless you live in an arid region.
This post was edited on 3/21/18 at 6:14 pm
Posted on 3/21/18 at 6:22 pm to mdomingue
Using a vinyl sealer will help, but all wood moves. It’s the nature of the beast.
Posted on 3/21/18 at 8:18 pm to LSUfreak1459
walnut is a very stable wood to work with. remember both pieces will be shrinking and swelling. all things considered I would think with a good finish especially on the end grain you should have little problem for inside furniture
Posted on 3/21/18 at 9:35 pm to mdomingue
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Relative Humidity
Wrong, relative humidity is the sweat that rolls off a Bama fans balls when hes banging his cousin.
Posted on 3/22/18 at 7:31 am to CHEDBALLZ
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Relative Humidity
Wrong, relative humidity is the sweat that rolls off a Bama fans balls when hes banging his cousin.
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