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re: Wolf hunting in Idaho (pic)
Posted on 11/17/11 at 9:12 pm to coloradoBengal
Posted on 11/17/11 at 9:12 pm to coloradoBengal
Well I'll throw in my history channel aided two cents.
Man can adequately fill any predator niche. Man could exterminate everything on this planet. Man could probably figure out a way to crack this planet in half right square down the middle if man wanted to.
The point is, we hav the power to completely detatch from all things "natural." I don't think that means we should exterminate a species on th basis that it "doesn't serve a purpose" (except Mosquitos). Should they be allowed to run rampant? frick no. Should they be managed and allowed to exist? Of course. I think man owes it to nature and the earth and future generations to let nature determine which species exist.
With that said, If I see a wolf chewing on one of cows, it's a dead SOB.
Man can adequately fill any predator niche. Man could exterminate everything on this planet. Man could probably figure out a way to crack this planet in half right square down the middle if man wanted to.
The point is, we hav the power to completely detatch from all things "natural." I don't think that means we should exterminate a species on th basis that it "doesn't serve a purpose" (except Mosquitos). Should they be allowed to run rampant? frick no. Should they be managed and allowed to exist? Of course. I think man owes it to nature and the earth and future generations to let nature determine which species exist.
With that said, If I see a wolf chewing on one of cows, it's a dead SOB.
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Posted on 11/17/11 at 9:13 pm to coloradoBengal
Why? You have business losses just like anybody else...why shouldn't ranchers? I own the wolf as much as the rancher does and he may be ranching on MY land (a voter). I want the wolf to stay around whether the rancher wants it or not. An apex predator is not a part of the property it is on.
Second a wolf is worth more than a cow...or elk. Ask any Yellowstone employee. How many people travel to see wolves? More than want to shoot them by far and they do it year round. Wolves are money in the bank. The states that shoot them out lose the money...just like non-gambling states bitching about losing revenue.
Wolves (timbers) kill coyotes (except reds which may breed with them). They kill possums and coons also. We are usually to lazy to bother shooting them (coons,possums) unless they piss us off. Wolves will do it fulltime for free...and not raid your garbage like coyotes. Stop letting your scaredy cat European relatives talk through your 21st century mouth. Learn some ecology man.
Second a wolf is worth more than a cow...or elk. Ask any Yellowstone employee. How many people travel to see wolves? More than want to shoot them by far and they do it year round. Wolves are money in the bank. The states that shoot them out lose the money...just like non-gambling states bitching about losing revenue.
Wolves (timbers) kill coyotes (except reds which may breed with them). They kill possums and coons also. We are usually to lazy to bother shooting them (coons,possums) unless they piss us off. Wolves will do it fulltime for free...and not raid your garbage like coyotes. Stop letting your scaredy cat European relatives talk through your 21st century mouth. Learn some ecology man.
Posted on 11/17/11 at 9:13 pm to coloradoBengal
Nm
This post was edited on 11/17/11 at 9:18 pm
Posted on 11/17/11 at 9:18 pm to lashinala
I think you're kind of preaching to the choir now man 
We don't want to shoot them all. I support their reintroduction. I'm just not opposed to the limited hunting season on them as a way to limit the population.
And downshift, I agree. frick mosquitoes
We don't want to shoot them all. I support their reintroduction. I'm just not opposed to the limited hunting season on them as a way to limit the population.
And downshift, I agree. frick mosquitoes
This post was edited on 11/17/11 at 9:20 pm
Posted on 11/17/11 at 9:19 pm to lashinala
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Second a wolf is worth more than a cow...or elk. Ask any Yellowstone employee. How many people travel to see wolves? More than want to shoot them by far and they do it year round. Wolves are money in the bank. The states that shoot them out lose the money...just like non-gambling states bitching about losing revenue.
Yeah. People see wolves in the wild all the time.
99% of people can't spot them in a zoo exhibit, much less actually see one in the wild. GTFO.
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Learn some ecology man.
You first.
Posted on 11/17/11 at 9:22 pm to Boats n Hose
That is one species I would like to see exterminated. frick those little bitches. All theyre here for is to spread the zombie disease when it shows up once the human society goes to absolute shite.
This post was edited on 11/17/11 at 9:23 pm
Posted on 11/17/11 at 9:22 pm to Boats n Hose
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Tigerfoot just set me off
How did I set you off?
I merely stated my position and was promptly called stupid and/or dumb.
Conservation and the predatory need are fairly far apart on this species IMO.
No ill will.
My only aggravation had nothing to do with your position.
Posted on 11/17/11 at 9:23 pm to barry
I personally would not hunt wolves. Then again, I wouldn't hunt bears. If the wolves have a viable population established that can sustain hunting, then I have no trouble with others doing it.
That pic the OP has is just sad though. Looks like someone's giant german shepard with it's tongue hanging out. Either the dude is a midget or that is one huge wolf.
I'd rather see wolves eating all the culls & cripples than those GD Xbowers.
That pic the OP has is just sad though. Looks like someone's giant german shepard with it's tongue hanging out. Either the dude is a midget or that is one huge wolf.
I'd rather see wolves eating all the culls & cripples than those GD Xbowers.
Posted on 11/17/11 at 9:25 pm to tigerfoot
Fair enough. 
This post was edited on 11/17/11 at 9:27 pm
Posted on 11/17/11 at 9:26 pm to Mung
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I'd rather see wolves eating all the culls & cripples than those GD Xbowers.
Posted on 11/17/11 at 9:32 pm to Mung
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I personally would not hunt wolves
Me either, Alx and I have talked about it, I have no desire to hunt cats, bears, etc.
Posted on 11/17/11 at 9:36 pm to tigerfoot
If invited I'd give it a shot. Not something I could get into though.
Posted on 11/17/11 at 9:37 pm to tigerfoot
No many predators that I have interest in hunting.
Posted on 11/17/11 at 9:40 pm to Boats n Hose
I probably wouldnt on the basis of not eating it. I think I would have a hard time ripping the hide off and just leaving the carcass behind. At least I assume folks dont eat them.
Not many Chinese buffets around those parts.
Not many Chinese buffets around those parts.
Posted on 11/17/11 at 9:40 pm to DownshiftAndFloorIt
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With that said, If I see a wolf chewing on one of cows, it's a dead SOB.
I would never kill one just to kill it but would protect a dog, or livestock. I like to track em and watch them from a distance.
Posted on 11/17/11 at 9:42 pm to DownshiftAndFloorIt
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No many predators that I have interest in hunting.
I'd hunt coyotes in an area where they are a nuisance. Obviously I'd probably extend that to wolves or cougars or foxes if they were taking livestock on private land.
I don't hunt for trophy. That includes deer.
Posted on 11/17/11 at 9:58 pm to coloradoBengal
I just went back and skimmed the thread again. I really turned this thing into a clusterfrick for a while there. I guess I was just looking to pick an e-fight 
Posted on 11/17/11 at 10:02 pm to Boats n Hose
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I guess I was just looking to pick an e-fight
I've been there.
Posted on 11/17/11 at 10:03 pm to Boats n Hose
duplicate
This post was edited on 11/17/11 at 10:04 pm
Posted on 11/17/11 at 10:03 pm to RogerTheShrubber
How often do you see/hear them up there? I know hearing a pack of coyotes cutting up in the swamp sends chills down my back. I bet a pack of wolves in the mountains on a cold night is a hell of a sound.
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