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re: Why has Stihl never figured out their carburetor issues?

Posted on 7/7/15 at 9:36 am to
Posted by Langston
Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 7/7/15 at 9:36 am to
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I've ran a couple of pro grade huskys and was not impressed at all.

They really aren't, IMO, until it comes to their bigger saws. When running like 36" bars on the bigger ones, they do pull like a boss.
Posted by Agforlife
Somewhere in the Brazos Valley
Member since Nov 2012
20102 posts
Posted on 7/7/15 at 9:47 am to
We have one Huskavarna pro model demo saw because Sheplers was out of Sthil that day and I had to have a saw and that pos has broke twice within 2 weeks. It's strictly an emergency back up now.
This post was edited on 7/7/15 at 10:24 am
Posted by Sparkplug#1
Member since May 2013
7352 posts
Posted on 7/7/15 at 10:02 am to
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FWIW, Stihl told me during one conversation a few years back, they had made several changes to the carbs due to EPA regulations and they were having some trouble in the south with them due to humidity. Maybe you had one of the first models.


My saw lives in the rainforest and is rained on all of the time. When not working, it lives in a very humid barn. Ive never drained the fuel after using it. It probably sees 30 hours of work, every week, for like 9 year. The 660 magnum with a 48' bar is a beast and never breaks. Go pro series and never look back.
Posted by Langston
Member since Nov 2010
7685 posts
Posted on 7/7/15 at 10:10 am to
Yeah I don't think the ones ran with any regularity have the issues.

quote:

The 660 magnum with a 48' bar is a beast

Yes, yes it is.
Posted by VernonPLSUfan
Leesville, La.
Member since Sep 2007
16019 posts
Posted on 7/7/15 at 10:15 am to
I need a chain saw for medium to light use. Been looking at the stihl 20" for some time and even the 18". This thread has got me thinking on something else. So should I buy the heavy duty, or stick with the light around the house saw. I have some trees that are down and need to be cut up. Prolly around 60" in diameter. Other than that just cutting brush for duck blind and small use. What would you all recommend?
Posted by DownshiftAndFloorIt
Here
Member since Jan 2011
66763 posts
Posted on 7/7/15 at 10:22 am to
I've run the dog shite out of an MS391 which is mid grade and an MS170 which is a homeowner model. No complaints with either one, but they're properly applied.

A couple of tanks of gas a year = homeowner

A couple of gallons a year = mid grade

All day every day = pro grade

Buy the right tool for the job.
Posted by Jambo
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2009
2236 posts
Posted on 7/7/15 at 10:25 am to
Stout, I've had the same problems, and we use ours daily as well with the rental properties. Every year or so, replace or rebuild it.

It was the ethanol tearing it up.

Non ethanol or sta-bil and never had a problem again
Posted by misterc
Louisiana
Member since Sep 2014
701 posts
Posted on 7/7/15 at 10:27 am to
I own 5 Stihl products, for years I would bring one to my dealer and pick up the one he just fixed. I switched to premix fuel and have not been back since. I know its 40 bucks a gallon but to have my tools start every day when I need them its worth it to me
Posted by Hammertime
Will trade dowsing rod for titties
Member since Jan 2012
43030 posts
Posted on 7/7/15 at 10:38 am to
Yeah, but then they break and you're SOL for a week until they get the parts in. The smaller ones are wound up too tight and don't make the torque that Stihl saws make
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Prolly around 60" in diameter
If they really are 60" trees, you need to rent a saw. No need to spend $1500-2k on a saw that you'll use for a little bit.

I used to have a 660 with a 60" bar, and IIRC, it was like $1500 out the door. Used it for cutting stumps flush for the mulcher. Bitch was heavy. Also had access to an 880 with a 60" and an 090 with a 6ft bar. That fricker weighed all of 100 lbs and would rip your wrist tendons if you didn't start it correctly
This post was edited on 7/7/15 at 10:46 am
Posted by Sparkplug#1
Member since May 2013
7352 posts
Posted on 7/7/15 at 11:29 am to
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I used to have a 660 with a 60" bar, and IIRC, it was like $1500 out the door. Used it for cutting stumps flush for the mulcher. Bitch was heavy. Also had access to an 880 with a 60" and an 090 with a 6ft bar. That fricker weighed all of 100 lbs and would rip your wrist tendons if you didn't start it correctly


I don't find the 660 to be that heavy, for what it does. I almost bought an 880, but it was too heavy and the 660 with a skip a link chain, eats hardwoods better/faster. than an 880. You can really get the RPM's up on a 660.

I've had some trees that were bigger than a 60'' diameter and you can still slice them up with a smaller bar. Cut them lengthwise first if you have too. I couldn't budge this log, so we split it down the middle, before milling.

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Posted by Hammertime
Will trade dowsing rod for titties
Member since Jan 2012
43030 posts
Posted on 7/7/15 at 12:11 pm to
It's fine when you're cutting down. Cutting a stump flush sucked balls though. My main workhorse was a 460 with a 20" bar. That thing would throw chips like a fricking Lays factory. Favorite was a 192 top handle. That little bastard was just so fun to use.


Moral of the story is....if you need a pro grade saw, don't cheap out and buy a homeowner saw from a big box store and expect it to perform like a better one. Get a real saw
Posted by White Bear
Yonnygo
Member since Jul 2014
14222 posts
Posted on 7/7/15 at 1:11 pm to
Wow, big arse log. Are you in LA?

Posted by dpark
Northeast LA
Member since Feb 2011
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Posted on 7/7/15 at 1:50 pm to


Poulan FTMFW
Posted by CHEDBALLZ
South Central LA
Member since Dec 2009
22005 posts
Posted on 7/7/15 at 1:50 pm to
Costa Rica I believe.
Posted by Hammertime
Will trade dowsing rod for titties
Member since Jan 2012
43030 posts
Posted on 7/7/15 at 2:00 pm to


I burned up two of those within a couple of hours. One just quit, and the other started smoking everywhere
Posted by Langston
Member since Nov 2010
7685 posts
Posted on 7/7/15 at 2:05 pm to
I tried to use my dad's farm boss the other day when I was at his house to cut 10 or 12 trees. After 30 mins I gave him his saw back. Once you run a decent saw that pulls through a log with some quickness, it is hard to go back to anything less than a commercial saw. I felt like I was using a buck saw
Posted by stout
Smoking Crack with Hunter Biden
Member since Sep 2006
167861 posts
Posted on 7/7/15 at 2:08 pm to
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So you buy equipment in the homeowner line


My chainsaw is the only thing I have that isn't considered true commercial FWIW. Everything I have outside of it is commercial and even the FB is considered light commercial use if you get down to it which is what I do. I am cutting overgrown yards around vacant houses. Not clearing rainforest so it's not like I need the biggest saw they make.
Posted by Hammertime
Will trade dowsing rod for titties
Member since Jan 2012
43030 posts
Posted on 7/7/15 at 3:16 pm to
A 260 or whatever number they are now would be the perfect size. I don't assume you cut big stuff all that often, so stick a 16 or 18" bar on it and be done.

You should be able to get out of there with a couple extra chains for $600 give or take a few
Posted by stout
Smoking Crack with Hunter Biden
Member since Sep 2006
167861 posts
Posted on 7/7/15 at 3:23 pm to
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I don't assume you cut big stuff all that often



Only when trees actually fall on the house. That's why I needed my saw last week after all the storms. Had a pine on a house. My workers cut the whole thing up with my pole saw though it was a little slower that way. If they would have called me, I would have rented them a saw from somewhere.

Other than that, we are doing preventative maintenance cutting the overgrown shite to keep it from messing the houses up more.
Posted by 756
Member since Sep 2004
14918 posts
Posted on 7/7/15 at 8:18 pm to
I have a stihl blower mistreat the crap out of it and starts on the third pull

I have a newer trimmer that I use nothing but the motofuel and I still replace the carb every year

Talked with Stihl directly and they claim nothing is wrong.

Mechanic tells me they moved to carbs from China and they are pure junk. He said motofuel and run it dry everytime- but budget to replace carb-

Had an echo for 15 years and never worked on it .

Stihl consumer grade stuff is nothing special-

They do not stand behind their warranty at all

This post was edited on 7/7/15 at 8:54 pm
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